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# 21
01-31-2011, 03:40 AM
while i like this idea, but i think you need to downgrade the eng commander to a lt commander. and up one of the lt com to commander. imo it makes no sence for a t5 tactical refit to downgrade a commander slot of a t4 to a lt com in a t5. other then that like i said i like the idea
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# 22
01-31-2011, 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Angelphoenix12 View Post
while i like this idea, but i think you need to downgrade the eng commander to a lt commander. and up one of the lt com to commander. imo it makes no sence for a t5 tactical refit to downgrade a commander slot of a t4 to a lt com in a t5. other then that like i said i like the idea
The idea was to make it more like an escort-cruiser hybrid, less firepower than a standard t5 escort in exchange for more survivability, but not quite as much as a t5 cruiser. Hence the lower tactical boff slot and higher engineer boff slot, along with the 3 tactical consoles and 3 engineer consoles (-1 tac, +1 engineer).
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# 23
01-31-2011, 06:18 AM
You know, we can discuss back and forth about the specific balance of the proposed Akira refit all month and not come to a decision. Furthermore, even if Cryptic likes the idea and adopts it they'd just do their own balancing with superior tools and experience.

SO, here's my thought on the basic idea - Cruise/Escort Hybrid, T5 with 2 extra torp only slots as its special ability.

I love this idea and would use it over the existing escorts.
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# 24
01-31-2011, 05:10 PM
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You know, we can discuss back and forth about the specific balance of the proposed Akira refit all month and not come to a decision. Furthermore, even if Cryptic likes the idea and adopts it they'd just do their own balancing with superior tools and experience.

SO, here's my thought on the basic idea - Cruise/Escort Hybrid, T5 with 2 extra torp only slots as its special ability.

I love this idea and would use it over the existing escorts.
My sentiments exactly.
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# 25
01-31-2011, 06:14 PM
Perhaps an Idea.

First I'd probably say weapons should be 3/2. Now the idea, well two and a half. First allow the the torpedo mounts to fire 180 degrees on their side of the ship (yes rear too) Second, give it (the ship) a power of torpedo barrage, a sort of high yield torpedo spread. Esentially a double or triple damage version of torpedo spread featuring a mess of torpedos launched. the half part would be allowing this to use the miranda skins too, as the concept could cover those as well as the Akira family.
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# 26
01-31-2011, 06:56 PM
I'd rather have a new cryptic design. The Akira hull is 30+ years old at this point. Time for some new designs.
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# 27
01-31-2011, 09:24 PM
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I'd rather have a new cryptic design. The Akira hull is 30+ years old at this point. Time for some new designs.
Yeah it isn't the newest ship around, but it is still newer than most of the ships we have - Take just T5 ships: the Akira is newer than All 3 refits, the Excelsior, the Sovereign, and is about the same age as the Prometheus. Just the Cryptic designs and the Luna are newer. Personally, I say, is it too much to have both? (Eventually) Make new ships and give us the older ones we want. The Akira is already in game as a player ship so making a T5 version won't be as time consuming (from a programmer standpoint, they still need CBS to approve it) so it won't take too much time away from designing new things. They've pretty much said that eventually every ship we've seen on screen will make in game, so its probable that sooner or later we will get a T5 Akira and a bunch of other things.

In the short term I support T5 Akira first because it will make it in game faster than a new design.
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# 28
01-31-2011, 09:39 PM
That's true. I just want new ships. I'm getting the stale feeling from some.
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# 29
01-31-2011, 10:36 PM
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I'd rather have a new cryptic design. The Akira hull is 30+ years old at this point. Time for some new designs.
And the Excelsior hull is what, 150-200+ years old? And somehow it managed to make it to t5, and is even preferrable for its stats than the sovereign or star cruisers are. The galaxy is older than the Akira as well, and is a T5 ship.

The fact remains that the Akira (and to a lesser degree the oslo/norway and zephyr/steamrunner) are some of the most popular ships in the star trek 'fandom', people want to use them for more than the 2-3 days it takes to level through commander rank.

New designs, no matter how good cryptic's modellers are (and right now I'd put them pretty low on the ladder for actually paying any attention to detail), will never feel as proper to players as the ships that were in the various series and movies. We dont want 'new', we want something we recognize.
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# 30
01-31-2011, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rokesmith View Post
You know, we can discuss back and forth about the specific balance of the proposed Akira refit all month and not come to a decision. Furthermore, even if Cryptic likes the idea and adopts it they'd just do their own balancing with superior tools and experience.

SO, here's my thought on the basic idea - Cruise/Escort Hybrid, T5 with 2 extra torp only slots as its special ability.

I love this idea and would use it over the existing escorts.
I'm not a fan of the Akira but despite that, there are certainly enough players that are, that it would make sense to add a refit of it and a Cruiser/Escort with some sort of special ability for torps or the 2 extra torp only slots would definitly seem to be fiting for the background of the ship. Cryptic would need to be very careful with the balance of it though, make it a lot more survivable then other escorts without lossing too much from its damage capabilities and it would be by far the best Escort.
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