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# 11
03-07-2011, 06:39 PM
I know right. Any of you Klingon fans out there list the stuff you'd like to see here too.
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# 12
03-07-2011, 06:40 PM
Yay Star Fighters! <3
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# 13
03-07-2011, 06:46 PM
OK, let me rephrase that, stuff we may actually get to have in game but yes, I guess a Gunstar ( http://www.kitsune.addr.com/SF-Conve...tarfighter.htm ) would be nice but not very likely.
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# 14
03-08-2011, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Bastion13
No, not at all, CBS (I'm pretty sure it's CBS anyway) owns the complete rights to Star Trek franchise and that means all of the intellectual properties that go with it.
Did you read Aks Cryptic February?

Q: kekvin85: Any plans to use ships or characters from previous Star Trek Games like Legacy, Armada, Starfleet Command, New worlds etc?

A: While we don't have any deliberate plans on the table to use ships or characters from other Star Trek games, it is an interesting question of whether we can include soft canon references in Star Trek Online. In some cases we want to include something new in the game that hasn't been referenced specifically in a TV show or Movie.

If CBS had the all rights to the games as you claim the have, this would be a non-issue.
CBS has the rights to what was seen on TV and in the movies, anything else like game belongs to the companies that made them.
That's why there is no Emperor Class from "Klingon Academy" and no Incursion class from "Away Team" in STO.
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# 15
03-08-2011, 07:13 PM
OK, if we follow that then it means that the Luna Class wouldn't be in game and I think I remember reading somewhere that we were going to be getting the Vesta Class too and neither of those were on screen, only in books. If they were to add only what was on the screen (whether big or T.V.) it would mean we'd get the Millennium Falcon from Star Wars as it was in a Star Trek movie so would that make it canon. Even if the Answer is yes I doubt we'd get that into STO.

http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Ak...ium_Falcon.jpg
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Millenn..._of_Sector_001
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# 16
03-09-2011, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Bastion13
OK, if we follow that then it means that the Luna Class wouldn't be in game and I think I remember reading somewhere that we were going to be getting the Vesta Class too and neither of those were on screen, only in books. If they were to add only what was on the screen (whether big or T.V.) it would mean we'd get the Millennium Falcon from Star Wars as it was in a Star Trek movie so would that make it canon. Even if the Answer is yes I doubt we'd get that into STO.

http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Ak...ium_Falcon.jpg
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Millenn..._of_Sector_001
Cryptic struck a deal with Pocket books, which was no problem for them since one is no competitor to the other.
In fact it was a win-win for them since STO promotes the Luna and soon the Vesta and therefore might get people interested in the books.
And the other way around they can say: "Look this game has the ships from the novels, come check it out."

Note: they struck a deal.
A clear example that it's not "CBS owns everything."
Otherwise they'd probably have the Chancellor class in too.
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Qang_class

Also the Kzinti are not in STO because...CBS does not own everything and despite the fact the Kzinti were in the Animated Series.

Background things like the Falcon "First Contact", R2D2 in "Star Trek"(2009), the priginal Enterprise in NuBSG, the Imperial Shuttle in "Firefly" and the Sernity in a Star Wars comic

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Firef...bulk_transport

are no problem as long as they are small background pieces.

When you actually try to use them the real legal war starts.
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# 17
03-09-2011, 01:56 AM
Why not just leave this persons post alone and add something constructive to it instead of telling them they're SOL and they'll never see anything like this and to deal with it. As I said in another post read what was said, not what you think it says.

"While we don't have any deliberate plans on the table to use ships or characters from other Star Trek games, it is an interesting question of whether we can include soft canon references in Star Trek Online. In some cases we want to include something new in the game that hasn't been referenced specifically in a TV show or Movie."

It doesn't say anywhere in that response that there are no plans to add anything of the sort, just that they aren't planning on doing anything like that right now or if they even can and not that they can't.
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# 18
03-09-2011, 02:22 AM
That post doesn't say that they can't, but they HAVE said that they can't do certain things several times.

When Star Trek Legacy and the rest of that flurry of Trek games Bethesda published a few years back was coming out, the same problem got brought up. Their early concepts and magazine interviews planned 40+ ships not counting new designs in some of those games, and I think Legacy topped out at half of that, and that was with a lot of new designs. They put that up to IP issues - anything that wasn't on screen in the shows or movies wasn't part of the license but owned by the developer or publisher that created it, even some things actually created for the shows weren't part of the license because they never appeared and rights stayed with the special effect studios and artists who created them.

It's not like Star Wars where one entity keeps a stranglehold on all rights and can license it as one huge mess (though Lucas doesn't do that - they give setting limited licenses - they theoretically can).

Which is potentially a good thing, because Star Wars is forever burdened with the fact that the Holiday Special was declared canon.
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# 19
03-09-2011, 02:52 PM
All Cryptic would really have to do is update it to the current time line anyway. swap out the warp nacelles do some tweaks to the over all hull, same with the fighters, and BAM, new ship with retro looks of the old one and no one has any liability issues. As for the Venture Class.... that is canon, it was in Star Trek Insurrection.
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