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Lt. Commander
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# 11
04-03-2011, 05:16 PM
I've said before Cryptic is a measure once cut 9 times kind of company. I don't think they test anything at all. When the deadline hits, crap is shoveled out the door and that is the way it is. Remember the 1st Anniversery debacle of allowing campers to steal other peoples rewards? LOL this is the way they do things. If players haven't figured THAT out in a year your not paying attention.

If all the spam monkeys driving nascar circles dumping mines and fighters did not ruin PvP, then PvP will survive this too. I plan to enjoy it. I am leveling a tac and I can train FAW3 ....with 6 beam arrays it is hilarious and fun. Driving at a carrier and stripping all his fighters and mines, then cutting him in half, in the opening 15 seconds of contact is new and interesting.
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# 12
04-03-2011, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Data
Tide I think LF/SoS is with you we will have a ship or 2 running it but we will not roll a 5 man BFaW team. I am DPS cruiser pilot on the fed side and i refuse to run it, call me what you want, I refuse to hop scotch builds to the FotM. It is sad some here thinking winning trumps everything in this game when you get absolutely nothing for winning by 1 or 15 and after you zone out that match is just legend since most do not fraps their matches.
This

LF might have individual players using FAW, cause one of the main things about LF is: We do not dictate what our members can use or not.

Those few of our members using it (DBB escorts), have done so even before FAW was FoTM the first time.. I used it personally in my Raptor when I flew with QEW, and that *is* ancient history by now.

Anyways, I recently respecced my Tac AC toon to a Cannon/DBB/Torp MVA, and are not going back to cruiser until it is changed. So atm, I dont have a single PvP toon using FAW.
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# 13
04-03-2011, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Ozzie223
I've said before Cryptic is a measure once cut 9 times kind of company. I don't think they test anything at all. When the deadline hits, crap is shoveled out the door and that is the way it is. Remember the 1st Anniversery debacle of allowing campers to steal other peoples rewards? LOL this is the way they do things. If players haven't figured THAT out in a year your not paying attention.

If all the spam monkeys driving nascar circles dumping mines and fighters did not ruin PvP, then PvP will survive this too. I plan to enjoy it. I am leveling a tac and I can train FAW3 ....with 6 beam arrays it is hilarious and fun. Driving at a carrier and stripping all his fighters and mines, then cutting him in half, in the opening 15 seconds of contact is new and interesting.
Meh.. Fun?

It makes bad players seem good, in reality they are still as bad as they ever was, they just have their glory days now, because 99% of the respectable PvPers are refraining from using it.

The old OP FAW was atleast challenging to use, where the new one is easy mode.
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# 14
04-03-2011, 06:41 PM
Youre a rockstar from mars tide.
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# 15
04-03-2011, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Doomicile
Nerf FAW? Fine, then un-nerf Shield Resists. As an Engineer, that really ****ed me off because it also effected RSF.
Would it shock you to know that most don't believe that nerf went far enough.
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# 16
04-03-2011, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Beagles View Post
Youre a rockstar from mars tide.
Na He just a Rockstar in Europe, kinda like David Hasselhoff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUyT2...embedded#at=29

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJQVl...embedded#at=12
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# 17
04-03-2011, 08:05 PM
Tis the season built in folly, falalalala, lala, la la
Join me now in FAWs of glory, falalalala, lala, la la
Don we now our beam arrays, falala,lalala, la la la
Let us end our cannon days, falalalala, lala, la la
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# 18
04-03-2011, 08:18 PM
FAW is overrated, and the drain will more often than not lower single target DPS. I'm continuously out-DPSing FAW boats running nothing but target subsystems.
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# 19
04-03-2011, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by hurleybird View Post
FAW is overrated, and the drain will more often than not lower single target DPS. I'm continuously out-DPSing FAW boats running nothing but target subsystems.
I had a fleetmate test it out on me. His FAW hit me for 3000 k a cycle. That was the base from all the testing. 1 on 1 the skill isnt great.

Now, we got another player and he fired on us both and he did 6000k per cycle. Do you see the issue now? There is no way this skill should double your DPS when there is multiple ships around. If they lowered the second beams to only 30 percent of the main beam, that would be fine. Or if they increased the cool downs so the ability cannot be chained repeatedly with 5 second gaps in between.

As for power drain, ships are using 4 EPS consoles with 2 copies of EptW, EPS3 and weapons batteries. They can almost assure one ability will compliment FAW when activated. When you have 5 ships, putting out the damage of 10 ships, that is not fair and calls for a balancing act. Healers no longer heal their team but they heal themselves.
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# 20
04-03-2011, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MelineAaele View Post
Meh.. Fun?

It makes bad players seem good, in reality they are still as bad as they ever was, they just have their glory days now, because 99% of the respectable PvPers are refraining from using it.

The old OP FAW was atleast challenging to use, where the new one is easy mode.
Sounds elitist. 99% of respectable pvpers? Source? Link? No, just crap pulled from your rear end and offered as fact. Thanks, but no thanks.

I have been pvping since it was done. Some people use it, some people don't. Just like people used spam mine dirtbaggery, and some did not (me). Did you? Most forum primadonnas SAY they don't but do it anyways. The worst guilds and worst players used the spam mine option during that time. See how no attribution is required?

Sure, lots of forum freaks post like minded thoughts. HUGE SURPRISE. Most of the time the forum regulars spend 10 minutes figuring out who will lead the opinion, then 60 hours following the leader, cursing anyone who does not subscribe. It's like "forum Lemmings'. It is safe to be a follower.

LOL @ good pvpers not using "the current advantage". Of everything you said , that is the worst lie.
All pvp IS is seeking advantage. The fact that anyone says they won't is all words. No follow up. No verification. Just crap.
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