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# 71
04-01-2011, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by georgh View Post
I'm surprised no one's mentioned the need/want for a TWoK style self leveling shipboard phaser.
Strangely, I was going to mention that..but then Irealized I have no effing clue what that is.
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# 72
04-01-2011, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MrJ

A TOS movie era pack however, I will defiantly get. With the Oberth class coming soon, Miranda class, Constitution class refit, T3 and T5 Excelsior all in game that is a lot of ships that the interiors will work for. Ships that we saw, for the most part, in service all the way to the late 24th century. There’s no reason why Miranda and Excelsior classes wouldn’t still be in service in the early 25th century.
Heck, slightly tweaked versions would work for even TNG ships, seeing as the Ent-D used the TMP movie sets as a base for constructing it's own sets. Yeah. All the service corridors were pulled directly from the movie sets, given a new paint job and carpet, and they called it good. A lot of it was even in the original configuration, even.

I believe they used the TMP bridge to build the battle bridge, as well, I'd have to look and see, as well as some of the engineering section to build the Galaxy version (which in an interesting twist was nearly pulled untouched for ST:VI)

Really, a TMP pack would be perfect as next up, because it needs relatively little tweaking to turn it into a TNG pack. And it makes a nice interior for just about anything.

Addenendum: A Twok phaser? GOD YES. Preferably with a damage and critical hit bonus, dual beam bank. You could possibly justify a slightly tweaked variant as a 'dual cannon' for escorts as well, since if you look at it, it's a highly pulsed beam, instead of solid as in TNG.
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# 73
04-02-2011, 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackavaar View Post
Includes:

Engineering Hazard Suit
Crewman Uniforms and Skirts
Scientist Uniforms
Enterprise Film Bridge and Interior
Khan Off Duty wear (available for Klingon faction)
The Botany Bay (as a shuttlecraft, also available for Klingon faction)

Who's with me?


Totally with you!

Oh, and with another poster, Yes - MUST have proper RANKs with the TWOK Uniforms.
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# 74
04-02-2011, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Shatterhand View Post
If a WoK pack is made, this needs to be included:

Sickbay Uniform

Anyway, on to the main point of my post...

To be brutally honest, I'm more than a bit shocked by the attitudes of some of the community regarding the inclusion of 23rd-century items in STO. I can't help but question whether they truly understand their presence in-game.

First of all, there is plenty of 25th-century technology and design in the game already. It's there in the interiors, the uniforms, the ship designs, etc. It was included at launch, and I have no doubt that as time goes on, we'll see even more. There's almost no limit to what the Cryptic team can come up with for future tech/uniforms/design. They're dealing with unwritten TREK; it's a blank canvas that any fan would be tripping over themselves to paint upon.

HOWEVER...

People have to realize that the fanbase for Star Trek is strongly rooted in nostalgia. A vast number of those who love TREK grew up watching TOS either first-run or in reruns, went to the original-series movies when they first appeared in theatres, or watched TNG from the first night it aired to the finale seven years later. Their passion for Star Trek is based in what was more than what will be. If that wasn't so, there wouldn't still be comic books and novels being released that are based in those eras. People still want classic TREK to be a part of their fandom.

Yes, it's fun to roleplay in STO as a Starfleet officer two centuries after the adventures of Kirk and Spock. But for many, imaginations work differently. They can't be Captain Kirk or Mr. Spock, but if they have a chance to be the closest thing to that character they'll leap at the opportunity, ESPECIALLY if the ship they're commanding and the corridors they're walking in are the same ones they grew up enjoying.

So why not have a TOS bundle or a Motion Picture-era uniform option? Those who adored those periods of TREK history will buy them immediately, dress their characters in the iconic uniforms, walk them onto the bridge or in the corridors and bask in nostalgic joy.

Do the older uniforms and starships affect "immersion" that terribly? Only to those who let it. People who wring their hands with stress over seeing TOS-era Constitution-class starships flying in 25th-century space...well, sorry, but they need to lighten up a little, and put their imaginations to work. Come up with any excuse you like, such as: Continued conflicts between the KDF and the UFP and the increase in Starfleet's numbers have forced Starfleet engineers to un-mothball previously decommissioned starships and modify them for active use in the field.

TA-DA! Canonical conflict explained, at least for me...and I didn't even have a problem with it.

STO should always have its foundation in the future of Star Trek, and I don't foresee Cryptic eschewing that anytime soon. However, I see no harm whatsoever in STO honoring its roots and satisfying the nostalgic fans' desire to re-live Trek's past through these optional modifications.
Amen - Totally Agree with this Post One Hundred Percent
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# 75 practical
04-05-2011, 12:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shatterhand View Post
If a WoK pack is made, this needs to be included:

Sickbay Uniform

Anyway, on to the main point of my post...

To be brutally honest, I'm more than a bit shocked by the attitudes of some of the community regarding the inclusion of 23rd-century items in STO. I can't help but question whether they truly understand their presence in-game.

First of all, there is plenty of 25th-century technology and design in the game already. It's there in the interiors, the uniforms, the ship designs, etc. It was included at launch, and I have no doubt that as time goes on, we'll see even more. There's almost no limit to what the Cryptic team can come up with for future tech/uniforms/design. They're dealing with unwritten TREK; it's a blank canvas that any fan would be tripping over themselves to paint upon.

HOWEVER...

People have to realize that the fanbase for Star Trek is strongly rooted in nostalgia. A vast number of those who love TREK grew up watching TOS either first-run or in reruns, went to the original-series movies when they first appeared in theatres, or watched TNG from the first night it aired to the finale seven years later. Their passion for Star Trek is based in what was more than what will be. If that wasn't so, there wouldn't still be comic books and novels being released that are based in those eras. People still want classic TREK to be a part of their fandom.

Yes, it's fun to roleplay in STO as a Starfleet officer two centuries after the adventures of Kirk and Spock. But for many, imaginations work differently. They can't be Captain Kirk or Mr. Spock, but if they have a chance to be the closest thing to that character they'll leap at the opportunity, ESPECIALLY if the ship they're commanding and the corridors they're walking in are the same ones they grew up enjoying.

So why not have a TOS bundle or a Motion Picture-era uniform option? Those who adored those periods of TREK history will buy them immediately, dress their characters in the iconic uniforms, walk them onto the bridge or in the corridors and bask in nostalgic joy.

Do the older uniforms and starships affect "immersion" that terribly? Only to those who let it. People who wring their hands with stress over seeing TOS-era Constitution-class starships flying in 25th-century space...well, sorry, but they need to lighten up a little, and put their imaginations to work. Come up with any excuse you like, such as: Continued conflicts between the KDF and the UFP and the increase in Starfleet's numbers have forced Starfleet engineers to un-mothball previously decommissioned starships and modify them for active use in the field.

TA-DA! Canonical conflict explained, at least for me...and I didn't even have a problem with it.

STO should always have its foundation in the future of Star Trek, and I don't foresee Cryptic eschewing that anytime soon. However, I see no harm whatsoever in STO honoring its roots and satisfying the nostalgic fans' desire to re-live Trek's past through these optional modifications.
It seems to me that your argument must be understood of sorts. The majority of canon people say no to certain 23rd century items such as ships in t5 class. Majority of star trek online has all attributes from enterprise all the way to future trek in game. canon is insulted by people who wish to change attributes that have not been touched in any star trek video game or mod. every star trek game ever made keeps with canon and its certain time period. It also keep in line with attributes.
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# 76
04-05-2011, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by UFP-Magnis View Post
It seems to me that your argument must be understood of sorts. The majority of canon people say no to certain 23rd century items such as ships in t5 class. Majority of star trek online has all attributes from enterprise all the way to future trek in game. canon is insulted by people who wish to change attributes that have not been touched in any star trek video game or mod. every star trek game ever made keeps with canon and its certain time period. It also keep in line with attributes.
But are you sure that the majority of people who like Star Trek are in it ofr the canon?
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# 77
04-06-2011, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Hartzilla2007 View Post
But are you sure that the majority of people who like Star Trek are in it ofr the canon?
DARN STR8 I AM SURE, otherwise you arent a trekkie. You just appreciate its application and show material. Trkkies understand that this is a glimpse into our potential future and understand the ideas of today can lead to the function of tommorrow.
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# 78
04-06-2011, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Capt_wirge
...and don't forget the Miranda and Oberth Bridges to
I'll pass on the Oberth bridge. The pink chairs were a little too much of an eye-sore.
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# 79
04-06-2011, 09:49 PM
Hmmm, have to say I was disappointed that there was NO MENTION of any upcoming bridge packs / interiors in the Ask Cryptic. Regardless of era.

I'n terms of business, I've always believed in the philosophy of "strike while the iron is hot." In the past few weeks, no topic has been hotter than the TOS Bundle (except maybe T5 Connie) and obviously people really appreciated the fine work that was done on that interior.

I really hope the TOS interior wasn't a one-off, and they plan to put that work down for a few months / a year, like they have done with some other concepts.

I could be off base, but it seems they could stand to make alot of money and alot of people happy if they were to press this concept, HARD and get these things out.
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# 80
04-09-2011, 08:12 AM
Just wanted to add this to my list of WANTS. And if an Excelsior class bridge and interior looking as it did in Star Trek's 6 and 7 (the Enterprise-B variant) could be thrown in I'd welcome those too!
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