Betas are nasty and the sensor beta stacks are silly... however I have witnessed what Kilo is talking about. I have seen it from people that have no buffs up at all with the exception of FAW. Kilo and I spent a good amount of time last night trying to replicate the effect with weapons / ships / classes. We didn't run every possible of course, but some people seem to be able to get the bleed up with out anything else going on ??? Could be in my head too.