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# 31
06-10-2011, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveHale View Post
You can log out at Red Alert and come back with full shields. That's been going on since the start. I've been filing bug tickets but it doesn't seem to matter. I do suspect that something else is going on, because when you /logout you come back at the same spot. Some people are doing the jump and seem to be returning at a different spot.
Who said the Feds don't have an IWIN button.
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# 32
06-11-2011, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BluerockBeing04 View Post
Hmm...I think we were in different matches, our whole team had cruisers and the other team had all cruisers and 1 sci. The match honestly wouldn't have gone anywhere if it weren't for our team eventually spamming Hargh'pengs on the poor RSV. Nobody would frickin die!
Meh.. You cannot kill them, so use broken items/skills

Id have considered logging too.
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# 33
06-11-2011, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MelineAaele View Post
Meh.. You cannot kill them, so use broken items/skills

Id have considered logging too.
Oh, don't be so self righteous. Everyone in here uses fire at will, and 'pengs, and spam, and every other broken ability in the game, and will continue using broken stuff when the next one comes around, and the one after that. In this case, both teams were FAW and peng spamming, but their team had one weaker ship.

Personally, I don't care what you use. I'm a good player no matter what ship I'm in, no matter who I'm up against, and regardless of whether they're "cheating" or not. I have fun whether I win or lose, and I don't whine when someone beats me. It's an attitude I wish more people would share.
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# 34
06-11-2011, 08:06 AM
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Oh, don't be so self righteous. Everyone in here uses fire at will, and 'pengs, and spam, and every other broken ability in the game, and will continue using broken stuff when the next one comes around, and the one after that. In this case, both teams were FAW and peng spamming, but their team had one weaker ship.

Personally, I don't care what you use. I'm a good player no matter what ship I'm in, no matter who I'm up against, and regardless of whether they're "cheating" or not. I have fun whether I win or lose, and I don't whine when someone beats me. It's an attitude I wish more people would share.
There are only a few fleet / people who PvP regular, that are still willing too run FAW, Pengs are a little more common, however sort of the same deal. The few that run it seem to have this attitude. I do still complain when I see it, am I ever in danger of honestly loosing. No not really. I might take a death now and then if I don't have a Brace for impact up or a polarized hull, and a team mate can't hit me with a good hull resist.
The truth is the 5 cruiser teams... the FAW loads... The Pang spam (either one ship spamming, or everyone one on a team loading one)... its just plain annoying, and unfun.

I would submit to you the following, if you are good in any ship, if you will shine no matter what. Why not load things that people can't complain about. Why not play "clean". I won't argue weather or not FAW and Pengs are cheating or not... that language may be strong I understand Cryptic doesn't have the good sense to turn such things off.
If a Famous Baseball player, or any other sports star stood up and said SURE I juice man, everyone else does what do you expect, I mean games would be close and go into overtimes and stuff if I wasn't jacked up.... would they hold your respect ?

Now I don't mean any of this to sound harsh, like I say Cryptic leaves it in the game there the morons in this. Its just that ya I see a small number of fleets still run this broken stuff, it seems pretty often. I see the skill in a lot of these guys and its frustrating.
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# 35
06-11-2011, 12:10 PM
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I would submit to you the following, if you are good in any ship, if you will shine no matter what. Why not load things that people can't complain about. Why not play "clean"
Well first, I don't load my escort with pengs or FAW, and that's my favorite ship, I do pretty decent in it. However, my science ship runs 1 peng fore and aft, and my cruiser runs 1 peng forward, and sometimes I use FAW 1, but more often than not it's beta and tac teams.

But here's the thing: I don't have to justify to you or anyone else on these boards why I use or don't use something. I paid my money to play the game, and I'm going to do so how I please, whether people find it fair or not. 2 nights ago, my team decimated a team of pugs, all of whom had names I recognize from these boards. On the 13th kill, they started whining, "faw spam," and "cheaters," and soon after they all left the match.
I found this very entertaining, because only 1 person on our team even had FAW. The real problem was they weren't healing each other.

On the same night before this happened, I was messing around in Kerrat and came across you, Husanak, and in the same ship. You died fighting me the first time, but killed me the second time. My point being, good PvPers are good PvPers, and will be good PvPers regardless of what they come up against. I'm not invincible, and I don't even do the most wonderful damage, but people get all emotional when they get blown up, and I can't understand why. It's just a game.
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# 36
06-11-2011, 12:33 PM
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On the same night before this happened, I was messing around in Kerrat and came across you, Husanak, and in the same ship. You died fighting me the first time, but killed me the second time. My point being, good PvPers are good PvPers, and will be good PvPers regardless of what they come up against. I'm not invincible, and I don't even do the most wonderful damage, but people get all emotional when they get blown up, and I can't understand why. It's just a game.
Absolutely I have fought you more then once. You are a fine PvPer, in fact I have seen you often enough to know you have improved plenty since the first time I remember playing you. You are also quite correct you don't owe me or anyone else here anything. However being a MMO there is a kinda informal community here would you not agree. I think you miss understand somewhat where people are coming from. Some are just plan raging sure. I have lost to plenty of good PvP players it is just a game, I don't get all bent about it. (ok perhaps I shout at the wall the odd time... and perhaps sometimes I am keyed on vent when I do that lol) I also don't blame you or anyone else from running a peng or two, honestly Cryptic are a bunch of idiots... Pengs should have been shut off until the issue was corrected. They can claim they don't have the tech, honestly thats BS... they have the tech. They also should have rolled back FAW... again if they really don't have the tech... they should get on putting that into there engine if there planning to continue developing MMO games.

Honestly and I don't mean anything negative, I don't hate you or something odd... I enjoy fighting you mostly when I see ya. The question is though... why not Run your FAW and Pengs in Pve and load something that does not have acknowledged (by the devs) issues... I know you would do fine, and thats my point. Would you not rather see a GG when you win or loose a match at the end instead of the rude (founded or not) accusations?
If you don't answer on this one that's fine we can agree to disagree on this one. No matter I will see you in game, we will fight, and I will enjoy the battles FAW / Peng or no.
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# 37
06-11-2011, 12:46 PM
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Oh, don't be so self righteous. Everyone in here uses fire at will, and 'pengs, and spam, and every other broken ability in the game, and will continue using broken stuff when the next one comes around, and the one after that. In this case, both teams were FAW and peng spamming, but their team had one weaker ship.

Personally, I don't care what you use. I'm a good player no matter what ship I'm in, no matter who I'm up against, and regardless of whether they're "cheating" or not. I have fun whether I win or lose, and I don't whine when someone beats me. It's an attitude I wish more people would share.
I dont use Fire at Will
I dont use Pengs
I dont use SS3
I dont use spam


Whatever.. All I saw was

"We couldnt kill them so we spammed broken skills and/or items"

And just for the record.. "They used it first/too" is just an poor excuse..

/endDiscussion
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# 38
06-11-2011, 04:07 PM
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Oh, don't be so self righteous. Everyone in here uses fire at will, and 'pengs, and spam, and every other broken ability in the game, and will continue using broken stuff when the next one comes around, and the one after that.
Broad baseless statements to justify reliance on broken mechanics? I'm no one but I'm still included in an "everyone" statement. What broken skills have I been using?
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# 39
06-11-2011, 04:30 PM
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Broad baseless statements to justify reliance on broken mechanics? I'm no one but I'm still included in an "everyone" statement. What broken skills have I been using?
Evasive Manoeuvres,Hale........with you it's Evasive Manoeuvres.
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# 40
06-11-2011, 06:28 PM
Well guys, getting back to the original point of this thread...

I'm self-righteous, just like I called MelineAaele self-righteous, but for different reasons. I personally think it's detestable to rage quit just because the opposing team is beating your team. And that goes for whether or not the opposing team is playing "fair" or if they're running 5 8-beam FAW cruisers. We can argue the ethics of using broken powers until we're all blue in the face, but the reality is you're just going to have to cope with things until they're fixed. I rarely use FAW, but many people do. Are you going to rage quit every match?

I promise the community, unless I get disconnected, I will never rage quit a match. I never have, and never will, because even if your team crushes mine, you're going to have to earn your kill if you're fighting me. We've all been up against a TSI or EMS premade guys...and me and my fleet have been curb stomped on more than one occasion. But we put up a hell of a fight, and we stick it out till the end. We learn, we adapt, and come back stronger the next time.

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The question is though... why not Run your FAW and Pengs in Pve and load something that does not have acknowledged (by the devs) issues... I know you would do fine, and thats my point
Thanks, and I do understand what you're saying. But pengs...not running with them would be like not running the Borg set. I'm still going to be loading pengs on my sci ship long after this Thursday. They have the highest damage of any non-destructible torpedo, they're faster than quantums, and the firing rate is faster than the cool down for hazard emitters. It just makes sense for a torpedo boat to run these. FAW is broken...it will be nerfed. But even when they make hazard emitters clear the second explosion, it's still going to be a very formidable torpedo.

This bears the question, will people still think the peng is OP even when it works correctly?

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Evasive Manoeuvres,Hale........with you it's Evasive Manoeuvres.
EXACTLY!!

Hale is OP, he needs to be nerfed.

But let me amend what I said..."everyone" here doesn't use FAW, but everyone here has come up against it, and everyone has to live with it.
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