Yet another plot hole! Even if it was not mentioned in the movie cut its still an important plot point and should have been included.

You can't see how advance tech from the future might attract the Borg?

Not really? He basically ended up further in the past (of the alternate timeline) than Spock did. He's waiting for him all that time and in the process, does the calculation necessary to figure out when and where Spock gets spit out. The Klink part = whatevah. Even if it's left in there, consider that they KNOW it's high tech and want Nero to show them the ropes rather than them risk destroying/damaging it, or setting off an auto-destruct <----- something Romulans are known for.


And they know about it how? You just made a plot hole in your own counterpoint.

Lol, yet -

So somehow, these things make that bad movie Trek, but JJ's doesn't make the cut.

Riiiiight.

That's right.

The ridiculous plot aspects of the movie wasn't why the 2009 didn't count, it was because it lacked any sort of Star Trek mentality. The morals and values that are inherent to Star Trek were completely lost. In the end it just became a generic action flick where the goal of the heroes was to kill the bad guys. The movie would have worked just as well if it starred Ahnold as Kirk.

It doesn't make sense that Nero would have parked his ship somewhere somewhere and just sat for two decades. Nero was frickin nuts he woulda been out causing all sorts of havoc, the Klingon backstory should have been in the film to clairify this.

You forgot a key destinctive aspect here - In your opinion.

I felt the last Trek movie was far more Trek and any of the TNG movies, especially when compared to Nemesis and Generations which, in their own way, killed 2 iconic entities:

1. The TNG crew (AND ship) are axed and replaced with characters who are trying too hard to be funny and trying too hard to be action stars.

2. The icon that was Captain James T. Kirk is killed off for....what exactly? Why?


LOL - really? How? Like how it was lost by showing a mind-****, dune buggy chase, boob jokes, drunk jokes, a murderous Captain Picard, etc? Please, don't just throw a claim and run. Explain how the new one loses these "moral" aspects you claim that it does.

In the end, that's how most of the popular Trek movies turn out. Kill Khan, kill Chang, kill the Borg queen. Everything leading up to it is either great, decent, or written to make enough sense to lead to this, but it all ends up the same.


Not really.

Last I checked, he's a Romulan, and Romulans are known for being "quiet" for decades. This isn't atypical behavior.