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# 21
06-30-2011, 04:47 AM
Yes definitly, we need more NPC crap flying around
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# 22
06-30-2011, 05:06 AM
Does the Jupiter class have a large or heavy weapon that earns it the classification of Dreadnought? It just looks a lot like a carrier to me.
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# 23
07-02-2011, 01:51 PM
Sorry guys, the fetid pit that I have the pleasure of calling my job has no internet, so it has been difficult for me to keep up on the thread.

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Originally Posted by USS_Excalibur View Post
Does the Jupiter class have a large or heavy weapon that earns it the classification of Dreadnought? It just looks a lot like a carrier to me.
As far as I know the NPC Jupiter has no super weapons, however the NPC ship has more hull than any other ship in the game (as far as I know). I don't believe that a dreadnought need a super weapon, it only need to be big, tough and have a lot of weapons. The proposed build earlier in this thread reflects that idea.


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This is not a conformation of the Jupiter's future entry into the game.

Hate to burst the bubble, but one can always dream, I guess.
I never said it was a confirmation, I said that we had been told it may be coming out in late 2011.

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# 24
07-16-2011, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Artificialx
Next competition -
Design a better Jupiter Dreadnought.
I wouldn't change it much, just tweak the nacelles a bit, two larger nacelles in the back, and two smaller ones on the sides of the hull. (balance the weight out as it were) As it is now the nacelles look like they belong on an escort, not a dreadnought. "Helm, maximum warp." "Aye captain, engaging warp 1.3".... :p

from this...
http://www.stowiki.org/images/archiv...S._Victory.png

to this..
http://s1000.photobucket.com/albums/...3001013USS.jpg
( yay for crappy photoshoping xD )
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# 25
07-16-2011, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Trekker88 View Post
I wouldn't change it much, just tweak the nacelles a bit, two larger nacelles in the back, and two smaller ones on the sides of the hull. (balance the weight out as it were) As it is now the nacelles look like they belong on an escort, not a dreadnought. "Helm, maximum warp." "Aye captain, engaging warp 1.3".... :p

from this...
http://www.stowiki.org/images/archiv...S._Victory.png

to this..
http://s1000.photobucket.com/albums/...3001013USS.jpg
( yay for crappy photoshoping xD )
My Eyes !!!!!

No, i don't think that just replacing some nacelles makes that ship look better.
I have no idea how this design could be changed to make it look acceptable, it's just too hideous (no offense pls).


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# 26
07-16-2011, 06:37 AM
By conventional definition a dreadnought is a vessel who's guns/phasers/what have you are all the same size. Now by a general definition in science fiction a dreadnought (or super-dreadnought, which is sometimes used) is a vessel that is, compared to a modern battleship of the said Sci-Fi, is vastly larger and more powerful.

If we are indeed going to make the Jupiter a "Dreadnought" then at the very least she needs a proper BO layout.


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A dreadnought should not be a healer IMHO.
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# 27
07-16-2011, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 94P
By conventional definition a dreadnought is a vessel who's guns/phasers/what have you are all the same size. Now by a general definition in science fiction a dreadnought (or super-dreadnought, which is sometimes used) is a vessel that is, compared to a modern battleship of the said Sci-Fi, is vastly larger and more powerful.

If we are indeed going to make the Jupiter a "Dreadnought" then at the very least she needs a proper BO layout.


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A dreadnought should not be a healer IMHO.
Then, i would suggest to give the Galaxy -X a similar BO layout.


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# 28
07-16-2011, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Yreodred

Then, i would suggest to give the Galaxy -X a similar BO layout.


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I would agree to that. Here's the problem: Though, I do believe that the Galaxy-X as well as the Jupiter (should it come in) should receive such a layout we will be hearing a major outcry. Mostly from those who love the Sovereign. I believe that ANY cruiser (or vessel of similar or larger size) meant for combat should receive such a BO layout.
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# 29
07-16-2011, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Yreodred

Then, i would suggest to give the Galaxy -X a similar BO layout.


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Pretty crappy layout for Galaxy-X that one.

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Much better
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# 30
07-16-2011, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 94P
I would agree to that. Here's the problem: Though, I do believe that the Galaxy-X as well as the Jupiter (should it come in) should receive such a layout we will be hearing a major outcry. Mostly from those who love the Sovereign. I believe that ANY cruiser (or vessel of similar or larger size) meant for combat should receive such a BO layout.
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Originally Posted by Dalnar
Pretty crappy layout for Galaxy-X that one.

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The thing is that a dreadnought isn't scary at all if it lacks the neccessary firepower.
Not just Damage over time, this doesn't kill any enemy.
Additionally i think that the Escort=Burst damage, Cruiser=Damage over time is just wrong.
It makes Escorts the only ships that can effectively kill an enemy and cruisers just boring to fly.
(Man, i hate MMOs )

I hope that the introduction of the First officer or a tier 6 upgrade can help a bit.


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