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# 21
07-14-2011, 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mister_dee
But a bit closer to the topic:
Just a few weeks ago you and I discussed what a T5 K't'inga might be like.
And in the end we both held the blief it's sorelymissing from T5 but we both had different ides about how it could be implemented BO slot-wise.
How about giving the K'vort the opposite one of the two configs we came up with?
Or at least something similar?

One problem: This thread is not about new ships.

It is about new ship skins, visual customization of ships already in-game.

Please keep this on topic, I want Cap'n Logan to have plenty of ideas as he works to give the KDF more customization options.
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# 22
07-14-2011, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Katic View Post

One problem: This thread is not about new ships.

It is about new ship skins, visual customization of ships already in-game.

Please keep this on topic, I want Cap'n Logan to have plenty of ideas as he works to give the KDF more customization options.
Very well, here's an idea from...last year actually when Cap'n Logan asked from some ideas on KDF ships.
It was ignored then and will probably be ignored now as well (they added the D7 which makes no sense there as a third skin instead of what I proposed) but who cares?

http://forums.startrekonline.com/sho...0&postcount=62

I originally proposed it as a K't'inga skin, then as a possible additional Raptor design, but I presume it would work as just another Raptor skin as well.
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# 23
07-14-2011, 05:35 AM
Not to de-rail this thread further, but I have started a K'Vort topic here: http://forums.startrekonline.com/sho...d.php?t=224060

In regards to skins for the Vor'Cha, I would like to see a more heavily armoured version of the Vor'Cha - the same shape and look with the forked head and triangular rear fin, but bulked out with additional hull plating much like the current Negh'Var variant.
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# 24
07-14-2011, 06:32 AM
I think it's been said before, but I would love to see KDF designs that didn't have wires or gaping gaps in the hull. I know the Klingon ships have this whole 'industrial', almost Soviet (as in, brute force over finesse) theme but I wonder if we can't begin to see designs that have been inspired by their past alliance with the Federation.

I don't mean raised, sweeping pylons and nacelles, or grand Primary hulls, but more a certain... *searches for words* sense of modernisation. Less surface clutter, and more 'under the bonnet' aesthetics.

The Qin Raptor is an almost perfect example of a new style and look of modernisation. Unfortunately, it also has some horrible nacelles (sorry CpnLogan!) and the wires connecting the inpulse drives to the nacelles look, well, unnecessary.

Creative mixing and matching can produce some great looking 'modern' designs (such as the combination of my Vor'cha and Tor'kaht) and so I would welcome anything that adds to a more streamlined KDF fleet.
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# 25
07-14-2011, 10:01 AM
The "wires"-thing is entirely something from "Enterprise".
It was intended by those who designed ships for that era to show that in the 22nd cneutry Klingon ships wold depend on some kind of "external reinforcement" technique to hold their ships together since "back then" structural reinforcement fields would be less advanced.
Hence you can see those "wires" on the Raptor

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__...l_collapse.jpg

the D5,

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...ptor_array.jpg

the 22nd centruy BoP

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...Borderland.jpg

and also on the planned but unused Battlecruiser from "Unexpected" that got replaced by a K't'inga because the producers didn't like the windows on the ship that was designed for free (!) for that episode.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...-4_profile.jpg

I have no idea whose idea it was to reintroduce this clear 22nd century design element that is nowhere to be found on any ship after that era again in the 25th, but it makes no sense to me either.
It's a throwback comparable to modern warships suddenly returning from diesel/fuel cell/nuclear propulsion to sails without explanation.

There are already indications of the KDF using concepts obtained during their alliance with the Feds, like the use of Bussard Collectors in addition to the collectors in the wings that the K't'inga uses exclusively for that purpose.
WHen you look at the K't'inga and then at the Negh'var and Vor'cha, the necks have also become more robust and the ships have become somewhat more angular than rounded in the forward section as well.
But somehow Cryptic has managed to overlook those "little details" and therfore the ships look somewhat "retro", like some are more inspired by the 22nd than the 24th century.

I think there should be at least one skin per ship that lloks like it was actually inspired by the 24 century and is no "retro" ship with "wires" that don't fit the era at all.
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# 26
07-14-2011, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GreatBriton
I think it's been said before, but I would love to see KDF designs that didn't have wires or gaping gaps in the hull. I know the Klingon ships have this whole 'industrial', almost Soviet (as in, brute force over finesse) theme but I wonder if we can't begin to see designs that have been inspired by their past alliance with the Federation.

I don't mean raised, sweeping pylons and nacelles, or grand Primary hulls, but more a certain... *searches for words* sense of modernisation. Less surface clutter, and more 'under the bonnet' aesthetics.

The Qin Raptor is an almost perfect example of a new style and look of modernisation. Unfortunately, it also has some horrible nacelles (sorry CpnLogan!) and the wires connecting the inpulse drives to the nacelles look, well, unnecessary.

Creative mixing and matching can produce some great looking 'modern' designs (such as the combination of my Vor'cha and Tor'kaht) and so I would welcome anything that adds to a more streamlined KDF fleet.
I just tell myself stuff like wires and theHegh'tas wing prongs are some kind of passive sensor system for while cloaked.
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# 27
07-17-2011, 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Ebeneezergoode
I just tell myself stuff like wires and theHegh'tas wing prongs are some kind of passive sensor system for while cloaked.
I bet the Klingons can even use it at night, because the wires and prongs resemble those of the Bf 110 nightfighter version:

http://media.photobucket.com/image/m...-4fini4007.jpg

http://www.scaleworkshop.com/images/bf110e48im_1.jpg

http://www.rlm.at/profil/04/me110_niklas.jpg

:p
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# 28
07-17-2011, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mister_dee
I bet the Klingons can even use it at night, because the wires and prongs resemble those of the Bf 110 nightfighter version:

http://media.photobucket.com/image/m...-4fini4007.jpg

http://www.scaleworkshop.com/images/bf110e48im_1.jpg

http://www.rlm.at/profil/04/me110_niklas.jpg

:p
Yeah, I see what you mean (though I'm more a fan of the DeHavilland Mosquito :p ), it's suprising the sort of things you can draw inspiration from for sci-fi tech. The Raptor also kind of reminded me of a fighter jet or caddilac with the Birok nacelles too. The fins on that are mind twistingly cool, I wish I could get on better with that ship 'cos it looks ace.
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