THe harpeng is unique to FEDs LOL

It should be noted that there is a distinct difference between using something that is overpowered and an exploit. This is NOT an exploit. Don't get me wrong, it still sucks, but it isn't a game-violating action. in fact, why don't you and your fleet load up on Pengs and FAW and return the favor?

Thats cute, I see what you did there :p.

I can't speak for everyone in my fleet, but I use a fore and aft Hargh'peng on my science ship to great effect. I've never gotten a kill from the secondary explosion, but my 'peng hits for 10-12 k against bare hull without having to spec for it, and between my CPB3, tricobalt, and these, it's a very efficient dive bomber.

We're not the only fleet or individuals who use them, and frankly, we don't have to justify ourselves to you or anyone else in the community as to WHY we use them. I wasn't in this particular match, but I might as well tell you...if you got facerolled by members of the 528th when we're not at our full strength, (and some of us hardly play any more) you would have gotten facerolled even harder by any of the other good premade teams out there. We've gotten stomped by TSI, EMS, LORE, and 7th Core before, and it does suck. But they won because they were a more efficient team than ours was, whether they were using "OP" skills or not.

Frankly, we don't have to justify ourselves to you or anyone else in the community as to WHY we use them.

Well.. I havent seen anyone in the fleet you mention use anything *but* the most broken stuff availible .. I have heard several times the fleet in question being referenced as skilled players.. Frankly I havent seen anything that validates that claim.. They are regular Fed players like you see in every PUG, but using the latest OP build or setup that can be easily copied from the forums.. Ive seen several screenshot in which some of their players have been caught using multiple sets (borg and aegis set equipped at the same time, multiple commander BOs)

In short, they are laughable.. If not for broken items or cheats, theyd be nothing more than any random Fed PUG.. I havent seen any player from them, playing with anything resembling skill.

Because none of the respectable fleets use obviously broken or OP stuff?

I use FAW, on my fed cruiser toons so I can grind the pve emblems faster :p It does come off though for pvp.

Yeah Pengs are stupid, and broken, when you can 20k proc someone, and kill them despite having done nothing otherwise to damage them (you didn't even collapse their shields, you aren't pouring massed fire into them etc which again probably will collapse their shields long before bleedthrough killed them anyway), it's a no skill weapon.

Being able to cycle pengs every 3 seconds is equally stupid. You haven't killed them through skill, you killed them because you were given a weapon that just requires the single press of a button.

That's just a flat out lie, and I'm calling you on it. Cite your evidence or don't make accusations.

That is most of the game! The only skill needed is reflex and button pushing. If people want to compare actual skill, they will need to enter a ring or something offline. Skill and online games are limited to reflex time.

There is skill in beating someone or a team in a fight, if you aren't just spamming 20k through your shield powers, or might as well have burst dps faw with a tank cruiser faw.

There's more to STO combat than just "one button I win".

Skill in a game's pvp, falls to 3 things. 1 Game Knowledge and experience, 2 The ability to have a proper setup and 3 reflexes and knowing how to properly time your attacks.

Pengs mitigate all three of these.