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# 11
07-22-2011, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DecadeComplete
you know what. you all are right. Screw Klingon Originality. Feds should get everything.

[End Sarcasm]
KDF got a Fleet Support Vessel (Science Vessel) to go with their Carriers and Raiders and Raptors (Escorts) and Battle Cruisers (Cruisers).

So apparently they've already said screw it to Federation individuality...
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# 12
07-22-2011, 11:09 PM
They had mentioned that the NCC-1701-F was considered for being a Federation Carrier early on but they decided against that.

I doubt we'll ever see a Federation Carrier. Carriers exist in the Klingon Fleet and are the unique class of ship for that group. So adding them to the Federation or one of the other factions would cheapen the faction as far as Klingon players are concerned.
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# 13
07-22-2011, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyHappyJoyJoy View Post
KDF got a Fleet Support Vessel (Science Vessel) to go with their Carriers and Raiders and Raptors (Escorts) and Battle Cruisers (Cruisers).

So apparently they've already said screw it to Federation individuality...
...several months after they gave the Federation a cloaking escort and a cloaking cruiser.
So Federation got one typical Klingon trait (cloaks) and the KDF got one typical Federation trait, a cruiser-sized ship with blue slots as compensation.
And you want the compensation for the compensation because being even is unfair right?
Feds must be one ahead or it's not balanced.
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# 14
07-22-2011, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by wildcard454 View Post
Alright, fine , I say keep Harg'pengs fed only, cause its only right for Fed individuality. I'm with you OP.
LOL you beat me to it.
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# 15
07-22-2011, 11:22 PM
Carrier federation= bad
Too any player that says they are pushing more Klingon stuff then Federation well, it just proves that you never ever leveled a klingon alt. I leveled my vice admiral on the Federation side first, all i can say is when i leveled my klingon i could not believe how unfinished that faction is. Having this debate over a federation carrier is pointless, and its even more pointless to say well the feds got this, well the klingons got this. Kind reminds of two children bickering lol.
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# 16
07-22-2011, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Intrepidox View Post
Was this abandoned? back after all this time and it's not even on the 'upcoming features/additions' thread anymore I thought with the addition of peregrine fighters we'd finally see a Federation Carrier ship but alas my dreams did not come true.. anyone else hoping they'll some day add a Fed Carrier ship?
That ship looks like it could be a Star Wars ship if you removed the nacelles.
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# 17
07-22-2011, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mister_dee
...several months after they gave the Federation a cloaking escort and a cloaking cruiser.
So Federation got one typical Klingon trait (cloaks) and the KDF got one typical Federation trait, a cruiser-sized ship with blue slots as compensation.
And you want the compensation for the compensation because being even is unfair right?
Feds must be one ahead or it's not balanced.
???

Raptor = Escort
Battle Cruiser = Cruiser
Fleet Support = Science Vessel
Carrier =
Raider =

Seems like the KDF is two ahead. It used to be one ahead when the KDF had no Science Vessel and had to use the Carriers and Raiders to offset that.

I don't even want a Federation Carrier, but the suggestion that the KDF losing one ship type to the Federation would destroy it's "Klingon Originality" is laughable. The KDF had four ship types, two unique. The UFP had three ship types, one unique. Now the KDF has five ship types, two still unique. The UFP still has three ship types, none unique.

At this point the Federation just has a bunch of redundant variations on the same three themes. Which is fine, really, I guess so long as the KDF never gets another new ship so that the UFP can retain it's sole distinguishing feature left... that being having more raw content, even if it is all pretty much the same thing over and over. Somehow I think a lot of people would object to that though... and I'd be one of them.
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# 18
07-22-2011, 11:43 PM
You know, I've never seen or heard of any "Starfleet Carrier" until Star Trek Online. If there had been mention of such in a Movie or one of the Series, I must have either missed it or forgotten it.

If Starfleet must have a Carrier Vessel, it should just be a huge, 4xGalaxy Saucer with four nacells (one on each side and two in the aft). Tucked under the saucer though so when you look top down its like a flying saucer.
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# 19
07-22-2011, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Zebular
You know, I've never seen or heard of any "Starfleet Carrier" until Star Trek Online. If there had been mention of such in a Movie or one of the Series, I must have either missed it or forgotten it.

If Starfleet must have a Carrier Vessel, it should just be a huge, 4xGalaxy Saucer with four nacells (one on each side and two in the aft). Tucked under the saucer though so when you look top down its like a flying saucer.
So like an Invid Carrier from Macross?
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# 20
07-22-2011, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DecadeComplete
So like an Invid Carrier from Macross?
Meh, sorta. I was actually thinking more of the original V just with some nacells since.. well this is Star Trek.
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