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Lt. Commander
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# 51
07-26-2011, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Hitherow
The one thing the Yeager has going for it, is that it was a kitbash of two Star Trek ships.. Not an Intrepid and an F-14 Tomcat like the Elkins. XD

http://www.shipschematics.net/startr...ser_elkins.jpg

And for a little added flavor they added the warp nacelles of the Miranda Class
and sadly despite being made from a tomcat it STILL looks better then the Yeager
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# 52
07-27-2011, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu1701 View Post
The Yeager? No.

Out of all the Federation ships seen on the show the Yeager, in my opinion, is by far the ugliest of all. I understand why they started to do kitbash ships, it added more variety, but I don't know what they were thinking when they put together the Intrepid and a Maquis raider.
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and sadly despite being made from a tomcat it STILL looks better then the Yeager
You guy's opinons. The one thing going for the Yeager is that there are no obvious signs or clues on the secondary hull that gives a clue to its size. Only the fact that everyone who has seen the Maquis knows that ship on sight gives away the fact that the Yeager is a kitbash. :p

I have every faith that the graphics department can render the Yeager varient in such a way such as with obvious windows in the secondary hull that it players know which ship it is, but still conforms to scaling.

And to trump the scaling arguments, the Bird of Prey (especially the K'Vort) disproves that their is an issue with size rendering. If you don't like the ship, you don't have to fly it!
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# 53
07-27-2011, 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Idali
I think we don't need every single obscure ship that somewhere showed for a second in game.
So, no.
*sign*

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Originally Posted by dvsaris View Post
No! No more kitbashed ships! It's bad enough that we have to put up with Centaur, Cheyenne and Galaxy Dreadnaught.

Let's stick to real legitimate designs, not something the special effects department put together out of spare parts b/c they were low on budget.
The fact that you (llike obviously many) do not like the GX does not make it a kit-bash.
It was designed to be some kind of Galaxy-Refit, definitly shown in the FOREGROUND in every detail, it is a valid canon-ship-design.

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Originally Posted by Koppenflak
This is true. Or perhaps a Tier-5 Star Destroyer?
Well the difrence here is, oddly enough, that the yt1300 is TECHNICLY now part of the Star Trek canon through its joke-appearence in First Contact (just like r2d2 through his appearence in Abrahams Trek), a Star Destroyer is not.
(But to clarify: I, of course, wouldnt want the Falcon in STO even IF it were possible.

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Originally Posted by Darkphenoix
My own opinion? A yes... ONLY, and I repeat ONLY if CapnLogan can work his magic and come up with a variant that doesn't end up looking like a horrible kitbash of an intrepid and peregrine fighter.
Here is the problem: THATS NOT POSSIBLE. The Yaeger was never supposed to be shown in any kind of detail, its only purpose was to be seen as "Random ship in the background"... Any try to make the intergradation between the model parts make look even CLOSE to natural would simply make it another ship.
IMO it has no bigger place in Canon then the above mentionet Millenium Falcon...
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# 54
07-27-2011, 05:44 AM
Yes and every other ship star trek has to offer too. I want them all from the Iceland class in ENT the saladin and ptolmey in TOS to the dauntless in VOY. Just give us everything. Im hungry for ships.
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# 55
07-27-2011, 09:59 PM
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*Here is the problem: THATS NOT POSSIBLE. The Yaeger was never supposed to be shown in any kind of detail, its only purpose was to be seen as "Random ship in the background"... Any try to make the intergradation between the model parts make look even CLOSE to natural would simply make it another ship.
IMO it has no bigger place in Canon then the above mentionet Millenium Falcon...
Uhhh...yes you can. It is called Computer Generated Graphics. Once the model frame is made, you can change it by smothing rough areas. Also, with a good programer, you can chop off sections, or add other polygons extrapolated from a surface.

I once saw someone use an engineering CAD program typically used for Large Diesel engines to build a highly detailed Galaxy-class Starship, complete with lifeboat htaches. That was just the exterior after only one day. I was told that given time, he could create an interactive 3-D model that could be manipulated down to the CM.

Have a little faith in the graphics team. They can sometimes do thinks that people believed impossible.
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# 56
08-02-2011, 06:20 PM
Im gonna say yes,

Is it hideous....YES

Is it an odd looking kitbash that really seems to be struggling for its own Identity...YES

Would I love to see it in game...YES

Why? Because I would love to see all trek ships shown in the shows make it into the game. I think a really cute idea would be to take those horrendous kitbashes from DS9 and relase them as a Ds9 Kitbash Bundle ( 'Ugly Ship Bundle' ) in the C-Store as costumes for the ships that they were kitbashed from. To give us some more freedom in our design efforts to personalize our ships as we level up....

That way we even forgo the usual T5 yes or no debacles too

I really did like the Centaur and like how its a tier one ship, made sense....I think the other Kitbashes should be costumes to either play them as they are at the level they fit the class (For the Excelsior kitbashes limit them to the T3 )

-shruga- Just an idea....I think they work better as costumes as opposed to real ships that need to be in th egame like the Ambassador and Norway classes.
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# 57
08-02-2011, 10:02 PM
I would like to see the Yeager/Intrepid as a Tier 4 Escort. I want to fly a different ship than a Defiant class at captain. In one or two episodes, it has been mentioned that hte Intrepid was suppose to be a warship/battleship. By making the Yeager variant an escort, it would at least partially pay lip service to these lines spoken on screen.

For graphics, I want to see three major variants:
Deflector DIshes: Galaxy, Intrepid, and Ambassador/Excelsior
Warp Pylons: Downward and forward swept(the one seen on screen); Upward and forward swept; finally upward and back swept.
Naccelles: Intrepid, Galaxy, and Excelsior. All MUST be scaled correctly.


The Dual beam banks and Dual Heavy Cannons should project their fire from the cannon numbs on the naccelles, rather than the sides of the saucer.
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# 58
08-03-2011, 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by NeilCell View Post
Uhhh...yes you can. It is called Computer Generated Graphics. Once the model frame is made, you can change it by smothing rough areas. Also, with a good programer, you can chop off sections, or add other polygons extrapolated from a surface.
No you cant. You eighther didnt read my post or didnt understand it.
If you put a vehicle together wich is a VW Golf in the front and the rest is an Aircraft carrier ist wouldnt fit eighther, no matter how great "Computer generatet" that is. It are simply parts that do not match.

Even at the long distance-shots of the yaeger you could see that, a model that works for closeups if you call them "Computer gerneratet model" or not, simply it technicly not possible to do.
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# 59
08-03-2011, 04:51 AM
to almost every canon-ship I would say "yes", but...
NOT the Yeager! I think it's one of the ugliest and most illogical vessels ever seen in Star Trek.
It is a good thing that it has been seen in the background from a far distance only, I hope it stays that way.

How about a real "Steamrunner-Class" and not that strange Akira-Variant that we got in game?
Also I'd like to see some of the Freighters in the Sirius-Sectorblock replaced with the Sydney-Class.
Another canon-ship that's still missing would be the Constellation-Class, however I'm not sure how it would fit into the year 2409/2410.
Even though I'm not a big fan of them, the Springfield-, Niagara- and New Orleans-Class are also some canon ships that come to mind.

What I'd also love to see would be some Workerbees flying around Spacedock.
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# 60
08-06-2011, 08:52 PM
Simple? Ok.

NO.
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