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# 11
10-18-2011, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveAngelis
You act like it is the end of the world without it. I can successfully fly VA with any ra ship. sometimes I prefer the RA ships...
Its is not the capability of the ships that matters.
What matters is that by removing the VA token they are lowering the value of being a Gold Member.
And screwing us over by removing a firmly established primary feature of the Rank and Game.
And I do not appreciate being cheated, nor do I want to see others get cheated.
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After reading the statements above I have to state a few things about this.

*sould be an advangate to the silver/gold* Either put a discount on the VA ships or give perk that lets the grind be eaiser.

As to the c-store token, that could be one way IF you dont mind the p2W, however Im really agianst this idea, why there sould be something for you to work for at the very least, however the price is way to much, even @ 8k dil a day / 140k = roughly a 58 day girnd just for a VA ship. That way to high of a grind, even with the dil excahnge. So differently need to lower the grind down on that. In less they are wanting pays to buy the c-store ships, which would not surprise me.

As to the questions realting to the pre-exisiting VA token, Ill be willing to bet they wont be getting remove form the character invortory.

Finally a 58 day grind is just way to much to get a Defaint-R or wahtever else. It sould be at the very least half of that in my opion, that is setting up a hugh disadvatange for new characters/players. Just my two cents.
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# 13
10-18-2011, 04:52 PM
Only problem is there will not a grind anymore as we know it.
Obtaining a VA ship with dilithium will become completely unreliable, and it could take as long as a week or 300 days to obtain a VA ship, all dependant on the going market prices on the C-Points to Dilithium trade.

And quite frankly, i find that unacceptable, and completely intolerable without the VA tokens.
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# 14
10-18-2011, 04:53 PM
Golds are getting ship tokens all the way through RA.

Silvers are only getting two ship tokens at Lt. Cmdr and Cmdr.

Golds aren't getting shafted here, relatively speaking. They get twice the free ships Silvers get. Gold subs do in fact get a little value from this.
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# 15
10-18-2011, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jexsam View Post
Golds are getting ship tokens all the way through RA.

Silvers are only getting two ship tokens at Lt. Cmdr and Cmdr.

Golds aren't getting shafted here, relatively speaking. They get twice the free ships Silvers get. Gold subs do in fact get a little value from this.
Umm we are still getting shafted because we are getting "less" then what we have now on holodeck.
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# 16
10-18-2011, 06:58 PM
To explain the problem in Ferengi Terms: Cryptic is De valuing their product. Gold subs pay the same 14$ as they do now but are getting less then they get on live. I dont see them lowing the sub prices to match all they took out of the game. Maybe some people like getting ripped off and will throw money at the C-store to buy things we had in the past but most Sane consumers dont like having things included in a fee taken away.

Im all for supplemental C-store ships but they have to keep the standard 3 ships choices per level for free. Consider the long term, once we get Tier 6? Tier 7? Do you think we are going to magically start getting tokens again?

No its going to set a precedent at the tiers after VA not getting a free ship with it. The apologists should try thinking long term, but short sightedness is rampart on these forums.

Leveling Chaining? It just takes one mission, ONE to mess up the chain and gate players from ever progressing until a patch. That will be unacceptable on live. People wanting Doffs to take forever to do? Consider they will suredly be extending the system, tier 4 wont be the end, its just a start, but it does no good if less then 10% ever reaches tier 4.
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