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# 1 Ship Design Challenge
10-25-2011, 08:00 PM
On Fed side we have a couple of highend ships that share a common characteristic.

The MVAM Prometheus is a Tactical ship with a LtComm Science BOFF station
The Excelsior Refit is a Cruiser with a LtComm Tactical BOFF station
and the Nebula Retrofit and Vulcan D'kyr are Science Vessels with a LtComm Engineer BOFF station

Think we'll ever see this cycle completed?

The missing ships would be a Tac Ship with LtComm Engineer station, Cruiser with LtComm Science station, and a Science Vessel with a LtComm Tactical station.

If Cryptic were to hire you to design these last 3, what canon (or soft canon / non canon) ships would you base them off of? Extra points for links to Memory Alpha or any other site that has Star Trek ship designs on it. I'm especially interested in any candidates for the Sci Vessel with LtComm Tactical station . . . I'd really love something like that for my main Captain.
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# 2
10-25-2011, 10:00 PM
If they were to hire me I'd scrap all the ships they had done in house so far and redo them all. They "picked" they odyssey class because they said it best represented the flow from the E to what the J would eventually look like. Yes not a single ship before or since has reflected that evolution. In fact, in my mind, they've taken on a more star wars look than anything else.
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# 3
10-25-2011, 10:44 PM
I'd just make the long-awaited Akira Refit the Tac ship with the Lt. Cmdr Engineering station. Personally I always thought it looked like a sturdy ship capable of dishing out more than its share of punishment and able to take a fair bit in return. Makes sense to me, at least.

I'd probably come up with something new for the Cruiser/Lt. Cmdr Science vessel. Maybe draw from a few of the Ent-F entries. Four-nacelle design, probably drawing on the guppy-mouth deflector that was recently used on the Bellerophon (which also originates from an Ent-F entry).

Speaking of Ent-F entries, my personal pick for Science/Lt. Cmdr Tactical ship would be this beauty.
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# 4
10-25-2011, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jexsam View Post
ISpeaking of Ent-F entries, my personal pick for Science/Lt. Cmdr Tactical ship would be this beauty.
That is a cool candidate for a Sci/LtComm Tac ship.

I like how it's a good mash-up between a cruiser and a sci vessel. The first impression it gave me was very Cruiserish, but the more I admired it the more of the Sciency aspects popped at me. Would need a secondary deflector dish added to maintain that design feature inherent in the in-game Science Vessels. . . maybe on a mission pod ala Recon Science Vessel.

Nice find!
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# 5
11-30-2011, 09:16 AM
I think I have a possible non canon for the Cruiser with Sci.
Though it'll involve a little imagination on your part, I only had about a weeks worth of 3D Modeling experience and it isn't textured.

http://lord-malachi.deviantart.com/a...F23635716&qo=8

I think I based it on a combination of the Sovereign and Intrepid classes. I loved the Intrepid's thin/long saucer but liked the largerness of the Sovereign's main hull and nacelles.
Also the saucer has a backup/secondary deflector dish, not sure if you can tell.

So anyway, it's an old design I came up with a few years back, but I think it fits since it's a Sci/Cruiser hybrid to begin with. If I was any better at 3D I'd redo it for you, but I haven't really touched it since.
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Originally Posted by artic1337
If Cryptic were to hire you to design a ship, what canon (or soft canon / non canon) ships would you base them off of? Extra points for links to Memory Alpha or any other site that has Star Trek ship designs on it. I'm especially interested in any candidates for the Sci Vessel with Lt Comm Tactical station . . . I'd really love something like that for my main Captain.
I would design a T3.5 and T5 Retrofit Ambassador Class. The T5 Ambassador Refit would be equipped with (1) Engineering Slot, (1) Tac Slot, (1) Science Slot, and (2) Universal Slots. (As to what ranking each Boff slot would be, I would ask for a vote from Ambassadors on DS9), or I would make a forum poll where each STO registered user may vote once.

The Ambassador is a Cruiser, so it should have 2 Eng Slots, however, given the "canon information" Yesterday's Enterprise available, with sound maneuverability (as mentioned by Tasha Yar), 2 Tactical slots, would make sense. But it was also an exploration vessel, so 2 Science Slots would also make sense. Therefore, I would make the ship's "special ability" 2 Universal Slots where the player could customize themselves to create the right ship for them. Of course, to keep it from getting too lopsided, there would be an ambassador or forum user poll to determine what rankings these 2 Universal Boff slots would have.

In my opinion, I think something like this would energize the fans base make them feel like they are part of the process, bring a new missing ship into the game, and be a nice alternative to someone who cannot afford a Galaxy X, or like myself, just does not like the Galaxy class in general, but already has an Excelsior, or wants to use a nice alternative. This would fill the ship cruiser tree in nicely to have a "flex" alternative.

If this went over well, I would probably use a similar process when designing a T5 Akira Class.

There are probably just as many "haters" of the Ambassador Class as there are fans of it, so I can just HEAR the negative feedback from this already, and i haven't even hit the SEND button yet. Before commenting, keep in mind, I chose the Ambassador Class because it is something not currently in the game and would bridge a gap (in my opinion), of the current cruiser options. I almost like the concept as much with an Akira Class too. or even, a new ship to the game New Orleans Class anyone)?
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# 7
11-30-2011, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jexsam View Post
I'd just make the long-awaited Akira Refit the Tac ship with the Lt. Cmdr Engineering station. Personally I always thought it looked like a sturdy ship capable of dishing out more than its share of punishment and able to take a fair bit in return. Makes sense to me, at least.

I'd probably come up with something new for the Cruiser/Lt. Cmdr Science vessel. Maybe draw from a few of the Ent-F entries. Four-nacelle design, probably drawing on the guppy-mouth deflector that was recently used on the Bellerophon (which also originates from an Ent-F entry).

Speaking of Ent-F entries, my personal pick for Science/Lt. Cmdr Tactical ship would be this beauty.
I always thought that design was a winner, provided we lost the secondary hull.
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# 8
11-30-2011, 02:33 PM
These are my suggestions:

Cruiser with ltc sci: Ambassador class http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/ar...ambassador.htm

Escort with ltc eng: New Orleans class http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/ar...neworleans.htm

Science with ltc tac: Springfield class http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/ar...pringfield.htm
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# 9
12-01-2011, 08:05 AM
Really thought there would be more responses....
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# 10
12-01-2011, 06:09 PM
I think the Tactical ship with ltcom engineer boff should be a carrier/crusier like the klinks have. and i think it should be the Typhon class carrier from the startrek game Invasion that was on the playstation one.
im suprised it hasnt already been done to honest.

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Typhon_class
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