Lt. Commander
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# 61
10-29-2011, 11:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeWard1701 View Post
Cryptics current modus operandi seems to be...
  1. Push the planned change to tribble. Without prior consultation.
  2. Post a "dev blog" explaining the change, and why "they" think its a good idea.
  3. Go silent.
  4. Hope players come round to Cryptics way of thinking.
Exactly... Except they are Patrick Bateman at the end of American Psycho can't tell the difference between reality and his psychosis.

I for one am just going to move on to Mass Effect 3, the new Batman game and movie next year, Demon souls and Dark Souls, Working a job and writing, a girlfriend, and school. They have pretty much lost this one.
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# 62
10-30-2011, 11:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Timelord_Victorious
Food for thought:
Stormshade said something like this: the reason for the VA toke to be taken away was to get a feeling of accomplishement when we DO get the Ship on our own...
Wasn't that the way it WAS! ...
You got to VA and for that accomplishment you got the VA refit, now you get nothing...

Riddle me this:
Where is the feeling of accomplishment if you get nothing????
or is the real question:
Where is the feeling of accomplishment if you get the option to buy a ship you use to get for free????

Now these questions I would like an answer, but all we are going to get is silence......

Yep, this game is going to be real fun after we go to F2P, as fun as going to the dentist....
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# 63
10-30-2011, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by psytce View Post
Wasn't that the way it WAS! ...
You got to VA and for that accomplishment you got the VA refit, now you get nothing...

Riddle me this:
Where is the feeling of accomplishment if you get nothing????
or is the real question:
Where is the feeling of accomplishment if you get the option to buy a ship you use to get for free????

Now these questions I would like an answer, but all we are going to get is silence......

Yep, this game is going to be real fun after we go to F2P, as fun as going to the dentist....
Well said. This highlights one of the most significant problems with F2P.

The path to VA is not exactly fun. Making it take longer only highlights this.

The reward for reaching VA is now non-existent. You have the right to buy ($) a ship. There is no interesting content or PvP to look forward to at max level.
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Their actions of late have been a giant FU to existing subscribers;With each new Tribble build that these changes go unfixed, the more likely they're to remain when F2P goes live.

People are saying "They need time to revert it" and "oh it's only a test server". I call BS on both statements. We've seen them quickly roll back to a previous code-base whenever something went wrong requiring an emergency patch. Yes it is a test server, but it's not just code that's being tested, we the players are being tested. Tested to see how much of the PWE "Grind or Pay" Asian-market-MMO model we'll put up with before we revolt.

It's not the actions themselves that are cause for concern, but the motives behind them.

Cryptic are seeing how much of this model they can apply to STO before existing players walk, and newcomers are scared off. They're pandering to the droves of players they're foolishly expecting to join as silver players at the expense of subscribers and lifetimers. But they seem to forget that F2Pers;
  • Don't want a grind-fest anymore than subscribers.
  • Will take one look at the foundry editor and think "not worth the effort".
  • Are the most disloyal of players. The reason most are playing as silvers is so they don't have to make a commitment, they can jump ship whenever they lose interest or some new shiny comes along.

Unless Cryptic/PWE/CBS is going to market the hell out of STO, it will be lost in a sea of other MMOs, many of which appeal to existing/potential STO players.
  • DC Universe is going F2P Nov 1st.
  • Other MMOs are going F2P, New ones are launching as F2P.
  • Star Trek Infinite Space, a direct competitor to STO, will be F2P.
  • SWTOR launches in December.
  • Other MMOs are on the horizon.
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# 65
10-30-2011, 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeWard1701 View Post
Cryptic are seeing how much of this model they can apply to STO before existing players walk, and newcomers are scared off. They're pandering to the droves of players they're foolishly expecting to join as silver players at the expense of subscribers and lifetimers. But they seem to forget that F2Pers;
  • Don't want a grind-fest anymore than subscribers.
  • Will take one look at the foundry editor and think "not worth the effort".
  • Are the most disloyal of players. The reason most are playing as silvers is so they don't have to make a commitment, they can jump ship whenever they lose interest or some new shiny comes along.
This may be the truest statement regarding the F2P Beta I've yet seen. Great job!
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# 66
11-03-2011, 03:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeWard1701 View Post
Their actions of late have been a giant FU to existing subscribers;[list]


Unless Cryptic/PWE/CBS is going to market the hell out of STO, it will be lost in a sea of other MMOs, many of which appeal to existing/potential STO players.
  • Star Trek Infinite Space, a direct competitor to STO, will be F2P.
ST-IS is shelved indefinitely. They are having publisher problems. So the direct competition is gone.
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# 67
11-03-2011, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by StormShade View Post
We'll have more blogs for you soon.
Could you guys please make Vlogs instead of Blogs? It'd be so awesome to watch you guys talk about the stuff you're doing instead of just reading text.
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