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# 21
11-07-2011, 05:37 PM
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the carrier has the most health of any ship in the game.
Sounded like the guy was saying that his was low on health to me.
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# 22
11-07-2011, 06:04 PM
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So other than it having less health then a Negvhar, whats the carriers downside?
Depends on the carrier. Vo'Quv has only 3 weapon slots forward and 3 aft. The kar'Fi has 4 forward/ 3 aft, but has slightly less health then the Vo'Quv. The missing weapon slot/slots are generally made up for though with the fighters and frigates it can launch. The Kar'Fi is getting slightly reduced damage out of their frigates because of the added weapon slot basically.

And while their hull strength is about the same as any other ship in the game, they're science centered, meaning that they have practically zero ways to heal themselves, short of being driven by an Engineer.
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# 23
11-07-2011, 06:06 PM
Slightly less hull ? My Kar Fi has less hull than my Raptor.
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# 24
11-07-2011, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Heretic
The reduction in the number of waves was done as a first step towards getting spam under control. Yes, mines, Photonic Fleet, and many other things are going to be looked at as well.

With the exception of Kar'fi Frigates, since the Kar'fi is getting an additional hanger, Carrier BoPs and fighters were strengthened both in damage and defense to compensate for the reduction in the number of waves.

By the numbers, I think it's in the right ballpark, but numbers do sometimes lie, so if after collecting data and listening to feedback from people who have tried them there are issues, we will certainly consider changes as necessary.

The intention, however, certainly was not to weaken carriers or strengthen them, but merely to give them more options and greater control.

Hey Heretic... can you guys please enhance the tooltips (show DPS for each weapon system the pets have at a minimum... maybe also show their max flight speed / shield / hull strength)? Thanks!
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# 25
11-07-2011, 08:07 PM
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Slightly less hull ? My Kar Fi has less hull than my Raptor.
Are you fully spec'ed into carriers and all the cruisers? your HP should be 43k+ on the Kar'fie. It has more hull then any escort BOP or raptor
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# 26
11-07-2011, 11:41 PM
Just adding my two cents, the problem isn't the amount of deployed items, its the confusion they cause by adding brackets everywhere.

My suggestion is in my signature, something like it would be good to consider, because deployables are fun, and I'd hate to see them continue to be reduced.
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# 27
11-08-2011, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by USS_Enterprise_J
Are you fully spec'ed into carriers and all the cruisers? your HP should be 43k+ on the Kar'fie. It has more hull then any escort BOP or raptor
wow, you're right. when did that happen? my hull always used to be 34k, now its 41k. did we get a buff?

Oh, nm. its 34k in sector space, 41k in combat maps.
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# 28
11-08-2011, 10:46 AM
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So other than it having less health then a Negvhar, whats the carriers downside?
The turn rate of a carrier is so slow as to defy reason, meaning its a target from the moment it shows up in the Que.
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# 29
11-08-2011, 12:15 PM
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The turn rate of a carrier is so slow as to defy reason, meaning its a target from the moment it shows up in the Que.
Most of the guys in the PvP ques don't seem to have a problem with that. I've seen 3 or 4 at a time in the PvP ques, so it can't be that dehabilitating.
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# 30
11-08-2011, 01:13 PM
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Most of the guys in the PvP ques don't seem to have a problem with that. I've seen 3 or 4 at a time in the PvP ques, so it can't be that dehabilitating.
I didn't say it was gimped or not fun, just so slow as to defy reason.
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