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Lt. Commander
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# 11
11-01-2011, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mister_dee
Here's the official response to this matter:

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Originally Posted by Heretic
This actually came up internally a while ago when I was trying to identify appropriate sectors for bridge officer and duty officer recruitment by species.

The Gorn sector(s) are to the south and southwest of the existent Klingon area, which itself actually represents only part of the current Klingon Empire.

The Orion sector was originally in what is now Federation territory, i.e., the Orion Sector. The new world is (drawing this from memory, so may be misremembering it) but is located in the farthest-to-the-right sector in the game in the Klingon area.

The Nausicaans are currently considered to be primarily a nomadic species for most intents and purposes.

On the Federation side, other than Andoria and Vulcan, most of the major races' homeworlds are not in sectors currently described in the game; this includes Betazoids and Ferengi at least.
http://forums.startrekonline.com/sho...64&postcount=7
Wait... if the Gorn homeworld is "southwest" of the Klingon Empire why do we encounter them in game in the areas they once controlled - sectors that are north and northeast of the empire?

So the Gorn had territory on the southwest and northeast sides of the Empire but not the stuff in between?

Totally scratching my head here.
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# 12
11-01-2011, 07:02 PM
One big issue I've heard over these podcasts that puts doubt in my mind a lot of times is I'm a huge huge fan of Star Trek. You have this person or persons who are developing things for the game and they just say oh yea I just saw this one episode for the first time and I am like ok now i've watched that episode maybe 100 times over and you are suppossed to be more of an expert than I am about this stuff. Which brings me to believe when the approval from CBS comes along for something that the person from CBS is just as clueless when discussing these things. I know that a lot of the problems currently can be explained in the tank without any air Cryptic was put into to make this game but it just seems that they either need to hire or start taking some direct suggestions to heart from some of us that have seen almost every episode and movie 100 times over from the franchise. As well this system that is always subject to change neglects the income of the non MMO or gamer that enjoys paying for Star Trek. Best business plan PW and Cryptic can go for with their goals is not one of a super taxation of the C-Store to the player base but one that gathers all fans either gamers or non gamers into it as one customer base. I'm sure that if Cryptic and PW start digging deep on their tech and pioneer something that can bridge gaps between MMO, TV, and Movie fans that all this C-Store stuff will not be necessary. Heck it could be something simple like a pay per view kind of deal of your favorite STO fleet or group doing a STF or fleet action or something. Best business plan would be one that targets every Star Trek fan but at same time does not **** them off every time theres a new major change.
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# 13
11-02-2011, 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Alien_de_jour
Wait... if the Gorn homeworld is "southwest" of the Klingon Empire why do we encounter them in game in the areas they once controlled - sectors that are north and northeast of the empire?

So the Gorn had territory on the southwest and northeast sides of the Empire but not the stuff in between?

Totally scratching my head here.
I think the current map is confusing anyway.
Think about it in another direction:
We have Gamma Orionis wher Cestus 3 is situated
This is supposed to be a planet that borders Gorn and Federation space and also Klingon space when we gy by Star Trek 2 and Kirk's comment "we're the only ship in the Quadrant" meaning it's in Beta not Alpha.
I think the current "map" only makes sense when there are "levels" of sector blocks, meaning one sector block is not a "high" as the galaxy.
As a result the Gorn could control and are southwest of the Klingons and also have a sector block "above" of "below" the Klingons that extends into Federation space.
At least that's a way that would make sense to me.
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# 14
11-02-2011, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeuxidemus
One big issue I've heard over these podcasts that puts doubt in my mind a lot of times is I'm a huge huge fan of Star Trek. You have this person or persons who are developing things for the game and they just say oh yea I just saw this one episode for the first time and I am like ok now i've watched that episode maybe 100 times over ...
Yeah, I've noticed that a time or two myself. Which leads to...


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Originally Posted by mister_dee
We have Gamma Orionis wher Cestus 3 is situated
This is supposed to be a planet that borders Gorn and Federation space and also Klingon space when we gy by Star Trek 2 and Kirk's comment "we're the only ship in the Quadrant" meaning it's in Beta not Alpha.
What the devs suggest (SW of the Klingon Empire) would be near Eta Eridani block which puts if not in then very near the Alpha quadrant and also near DS9 despite it being explicitly stated in one DS9 episode that Cetus III was on the opposite side of the Federation from them (which would put it near the Psi Velorum / Pi Canis blocks)... Oops.

OK, OK... so they're game developers not Trekkies.
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# 15
11-02-2011, 05:08 PM
KDF space needs Ty'gokor...more than anything else. The military capital of the KDF isnt even available as a hub...sad sad sad.
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# 16
11-03-2011, 08:08 AM
Hello, I've been experimenting with the map a little.
The result is somewhat hideous but I tried to make sense out of the available map as well as the Star Trek map I linke earlier in this thread.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8...amegalaxym.png

I enlarged all three main factions and also moved Gamma Orionis a but and added Gorn and Tholian space.
Gamma Orionis (containing Cestus) now borders both Federation and Gorn space so it now fits the dispute from "Arena".
Tholian space is also close to Gorn territory (the Tholian slave master in "In a Mirror Darkly" was a Gorn) and somewhat close to the Federation to reflect the problems those two powers have had.
You will note I added the missing sector block between Sirius and Alpha Trianguli which contains Betazed and I also added something entirely new: contested systems on the right side of the map.

Those are sectors held by none and there are starting points for all three factions in that area (their "bases", which can't be taken from them) so they can go out and conquer them.
In front of each "base" is their "front yard" and there is another sector "in the middle" between them (that's why there are these strange arrows from the Klingon and Romulan end into it which will allow a three-way confrontation.
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# 17
11-04-2011, 09:38 AM
I like it. Expands the Empire, adds new sectors and gives a contested format to the spaces inbetween.
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# 18
11-13-2011, 03:12 PM
Expanding the sectors for the KDF, to add new social zones, places to explore and conquer always a good idea. Would be interesting to see where the Orions have their new homeworld. Nausicaa would be an interesting place as well. My Gorn would like to see the Gorn homeworld. Enlarge the sectors, space is three dimensional after all.

What about making the Ferengi homeworld a multifaction social zone. Get a Rules of Aquistion trophy accolade for trivia, another for taking a tour of the city.
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# 19
11-13-2011, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Morgomir View Post
KDF space needs Ty'gokor...more than anything else. The military capital of the KDF isnt even available as a hub...sad sad sad.
+1 agreement! That Ty'gkor is missing is a crying shame.
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