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# 11
11-13-2011, 07:02 PM
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I find it interesting how you're talking down on its powers, which means as far as I'm concerned you clearly are bias against it to begin with. It's really easy to disregard another persons oppinions when you feel they are not being objectionable.

Simple fact is other ships are getting consoles for freaking cloaking devices, excelsior should have gotten an extra science slot at the very least for the console, hell the T3 version did get an extra slot I believe.
all i'm saying is that the excelsior should have as many console slots as any other t5 ship. they buffed the console to get some in-combat use and i'm ok with it. take the power bonus and the transwarp stuff or use a sci console. your choice. giving the excelsior more console slots than any other freakin' ship out there is a no go.
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# 12 H.Ramone ftw
11-13-2011, 07:10 PM
The Excelsior is the only refit ship that didn't pay for it's special ability. They probably didn't take a console slot away at it's initial release because the ability had no effect on combat. Hell, it couldn't even be used at Red Alert. So now, if you want to use your transwarp you can just equip the console. If you don't want to use the transwarp then you have a ship with a balanced amount of console slots.

It's really quite simple and one of the few things Cryptic has done that made perfect sense to anyone willing to think about it for a second.
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# 13
11-13-2011, 07:30 PM
NOPE. If you going to take these ability out of the ship and make it a console, And every ship that had a console added got a slot added then the Excelsior should get one also.

I really don't think they should have went the console way but they are and we have to live with that. But you cant do this for all but one ship that is BS.

And don't give me that it has more console now this ship has been out a year if that was a problem it would have been fixed by now.
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# 14
11-13-2011, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mongo94
NOPE. If you going to take these ability out of the ship and make it a console, And every ship that had a console added got a slot added then the Excelsior should get one also.

I really don't think they should have went the console way but they are and we have to live with that. But you cant do this for all but one ship that is BS.

And don't give me that it has more console now this ship has been out a year if that was a problem it would have been fixed by now.
every ship that had a console added was brought in line with the ships that had no special power (meaning every t5 ship have 9 console slots). since the excelsior just had a non combat power they buffed the console to make it viable in combat.

i sound like a broken record player repeating the same stuff over and over again. i just really don't understand why you guys don't get it. a tee-five (t5) ship has NINE (9) console slots (<- check the link if you don't get it).
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# 15
11-13-2011, 07:59 PM
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The Excelsior is the only refit ship that didn't pay for it's special ability. They probably didn't take a console slot away at it's initial release because the ability had no effect on combat. Hell, it couldn't even be used at Red Alert. So now, if you want to use your transwarp you can just equip the console. If you don't want to use the transwarp then you have a ship with a balanced amount of console slots.

It's really quite simple and one of the few things Cryptic has done that made perfect sense to anyone willing to think about it for a second.
It makes no sense at all regardless of how you think about it. Cryptic stated clearly and point blank ALL SHIPS would recieve an extra console slot to accomodate the new powers being changed to consoles. This is yet ANOTHER blatently obvious slap in the face by the powers that be. They just keep adding to that list.

This one needs sorted ASAP!!!
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# 16
11-13-2011, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by -GEN-Alaris
That's not what I'm getting at. I'm saying that the Excelsior now has to waste a slot on its special ability, denying the Captains who fly it the use of that slot for something more useful.

While... every other ship basically has no change. It got nerfed. And I can't see why, in any terms, it would need to be nerfed. It wasn't broken, why mess with it?
I fail to see the logic in it being nerfed. It has the same slots as all other T5 ships now. Yes I have one one on tribble i was messing with. And i also have a T5 tac escort retrofit. I was actually glad to see that all the T5 ships have the same amount of console slots.

Big deal, now you have to choose if you want to keep the console in there or replace it with something else. Just like all the other T5 craft now. And with it being a universal console. You can put it in any slot you want. I find having every T5 ship with the same amount of slots more balanced. Also If you noticed with the Dreadnought and Multi-Vector they changed them from being RA - VA ships. So those two gaining a console slot seemed fitting anyways.

As for the T5 tac escort retrofit. It honestly needed the boost in my opinion. The Fleet escort had more console slots then it did.

The T5 Excelsior really hasn't been nerfed. Instead the rest have just been brought up to it's level. And the power gain from that console more then compensates for the fact that it takes a slot up.
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# 17
11-13-2011, 08:08 PM
why is a thread about this being started today? they already rolled back the excelsior console, it no longer exists!

because transwarp is not an in combat power, theres was no reason to have it equipped in combat. you were taking away a console from yourself if you went into combat with it equipped.

im still baffled by what there was to complain about in the first place.
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# 18
11-13-2011, 08:12 PM
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why is a thread about this being started today? they already rolled back the excelsior console, it no longer exists!

because transwarp is not an in combat power, theres was no reason to have it equipped in combat. you were taking away a console from yourself if you went into combat with it equipped.

im still baffled by what there was to complain about in the first place.
so i don't get the power console? maybe i should start a threat and rant about that

edit:
TRIBBLE Maintenance and Release Notes - November 4, 2011
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Changes to the Excelsior have been reverted back to the state that it is on Holodeck.
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# 19
11-13-2011, 08:36 PM
You guys have my apologies then. Seems the 'powers that be' have decided against some of you, and are keeping it as an innate power, and not a console. YEAH!
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# 20
11-13-2011, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by -GEN-Alaris
You guys have my apologies then. Seems the 'powers that be' have decided against the majority of you, and are keeping it as an innate power, and not a console. YEAH!
well, since the ship still have nine console slots i don't feel that someone decided against me. honestly i couldn't care less about the transwarp ability. i just said that the excelsior shouldn't have 10 conso.. you know what? let's close the thread.
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