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I am planning to get my newest Engineer the MVAM console when she hits VA and I am also planning on using Polaron Beam Arrays along with Target systems. But I am wondering if this is a good energy drain setup and what can improve it. Is Tyken's rift a good addition or would Drain Energy power be better.
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# 2
11-15-2011, 11:44 PM
Well, the MVAE with its Lt. Com. sci slot is obviously better suited for this task then the normal AE.

Polaron weapons are meh at best. The power drain is not very impressive and with beams instead of cannons they won't proc very often. After the skill tree revamp they won't cost you more skill points, but their proc is still not very good. Personally I would go Phasers or maybe Disruptors.

Energy Syphon is only a single target power drain, were Tykens Rift provides AoE. It depends on Deflector Dish, which is a Tier 3 skill and thus easier to skill then Tykens Rifts Spatial Anomaly skill (Tier 5), but the power drain of Tykens Rift is much better. I would go with Tykens Rift 2, but be aware that the rift can be destroyed with AoE weapons currently. Don't know if thats a bug.

I've tested a similar setup not long ago with my sciscort and for PvE it will be enough to use level 2 of Subsystem Targeting together with Tykens Rift. This will leave the 1 Lt. Com. tactical for BO3 or High Yield. If you are planning to PvP you probably have to use a level 3 Subsystem Targeting. Also put some points into Sensors and Sensor Array and maybe use a Sensor Array console, too. For your Com. tactical I would suggest Attack Pattern Beta 3 instead of the usual Omega.
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# 3
11-16-2011, 02:00 AM
I'd suggest an Energy syphon (higher version if possible) over Tykens rift unless you use a tractor beam (thats how I use it on a BoP)... Or may be Targert subsystem engine will do the same.
In anyway you need to keep the enemy near the rift to make it usefull.
Also, I agree on a ship focussed on high and fast damage (like well... every escort^^) Polaron isnt a good choice. Disruptors and Antiprotion are IMO best suitet for those ships (although I use phasers for... well aestetics... ).
And if you really want to go for drains... use tetryon.

Also... since you obviously want to do something diffrent then being the causal escort with burst damage, I'd agree that the Multivector-prometheus is the better choice.
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# 4 Thanks for quick replies.
11-16-2011, 01:32 PM
To start thanks for the quick replies.
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Energy Syphon is only a single target power drain, were Tykens Rift provides AoE. It depends on Deflector Dish, which is a Tier 3 skill and thus easier to skill then Tykens Rifts Spatial Anomaly skill (Tier 5), but the power drain of Tykens Rift is much better. I would go with Tykens Rift 2, but be aware that the rift can be destroyed with AoE weapons currently. Don't know if thats a bug.

I've tested a similar setup not long ago with my sciscort and for PvE it will be enough to use level 2 of Subsystem Targeting together with Tykens Rift. This will leave the 1 Lt. Com. tactical for BO3 or High Yield. If you are planning to PvP you probably have to use a level 3 Subsystem Targeting.
I might as well have different tactical BOFFs one for PVE and one for PVP. What about Fire at Will 3? I wish they had a power like it that only fires on one target.

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Also put some points into Sensors and Sensor Array and maybe use a Sensor Array console, too. For your Com. tactical I would suggest Attack Pattern Beta 3 instead of the usual Omega.
Why do this? In what way does it help?

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And if you really want to go for drains... use tetryon.
Doesn't that just drain shields? Although I can see the draining shields advantage. I can always have both Tetryons and Polaron in my inventory and just switch them when needed especially with the new skill revamp.

Is the Breen energy drain power from the set any good compared to the Sci BOFF Drain Energy? Although I do prefer Regenerative Shield Array MK XI [REG]x2 with 2 EPTS chained so that would eliminate the Breen Energy Drain.
Would a Torpedo Launcher, a Dual Beam Bank and 2 Beam arrays in front and a Torpedo Launcher with 2 Beam Arrays in back be the best Beam setup?
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11-16-2011, 01:41 PM
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To start thanks for the quick replies.


I might as well have different tactical BOFFs one for PVE and one for PVP. What about Fire at Will 3? I wish they had a power like it that only fires on one target.
Beam Overload?
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# 6
11-16-2011, 11:58 PM
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I might as well have different tactical BOFFs one for PVE and one for PVP. What about Fire at Will 3? I wish they had a power like it that only fires on one target.
Sure, different BOff options are always a good idea. With only 1 tactical commander slot I would say BO3 is better than FAW3. FAW is IMHO situational, for standard situations it can be used without a problem, but in situations with a lot of strong enemy targets, lets say Orellius Block RA, you'll get a lot more attention than you'll like. There are also other situations where uncontroled AoE damage is bad, for example the revamped Infected and with your focus on subsystem targeting, which affects a single target, better go Beam Overload.

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Why do this? In what way does it help?
Starship Operations, Sensors, Sensor Arrays are the 3 skills that help with subsystem targeting. If you want to get the most out of it, put some points in there. At the moment I can't say on what it will depend after the skill tree revamp, havent been on Tribble for a week or so.

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Doesn't that just drain shields? Although I can see the draining shields advantage. I can always have both Tetryons and Polaron in my inventory and just switch them when needed especially with the new skill revamp.
Yes, Tetryon only has a shield proc. Even with the skill tree revamp, the procs of Tetryon and Polaron are underwhelming compared to Phaser/Disruptor.

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Is the Breen energy drain power from the set any good compared to the Sci BOFF Drain Energy? Although I do prefer Regenerative Shield Array MK XI [REG]x2 with 2 EPTS chained so that would eliminate the Breen Energy Drain.
Would a Torpedo Launcher, a Dual Beam Bank and 2 Beam arrays in front and a Torpedo Launcher with 2 Beam Arrays in back be the best Beam setup?
I've only tested the Breen Set shortly after its introduction, but I think at least the cooldown is higher than standard Energy Siphon. For weapons layout somebody else should comment, I'm a little aesthetics freak and therefore my Prometheus has to have 3xBA/1xTorp front and 2xBA/1xTorp aft.
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