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# 141
12-04-2011, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Quiiliitiila
I was perusing the STO wiki and I found some new pictures of the Terran Empire Jupiter Dreadnought. Pretty nice!

SIDE

SIDE / TOP

UNDERSIDE

TOP

This last photo shows how skinny the "underbelly" section of the ship. I hope that it could be larger when released as a player ship.

FRONT

Fingers crossed it comes out shortly after F2P!
-Quiiliitiila

EDIT: Added top pic.
Ok, I'm sorry, but I have to chime in on this.

The Jupiter Dreadnought has GOT to be the ugliest, silliest, and most unimaginative Federation star ship design that I have EVER seen. It looks like something that a 12 year-old would draw.

I can understand wanting a dreadnought for the Fed side, but this? This is easily the worst of the Cryptic-created ships that have appeared in this game. I like most of the original designs that they've put forth, but the Jupiter shows no such polish.

I think a Federation dreadnought could be done really well, but I would hope that they would be of a caliber on par with the rest of their designs. What I don't get is how anyone can be so enamored with such an eyesore. It looks like a flying bath tub with four, tiny warp nacelles thrown on as an afterthought. It looks awful from ANY and EVERY angle.

I swear that I'm not trying to troll anyone, but I honestly don't see the appeal of this ship. Is it simply a matter of being drawn to the power that such a ship would possess? What is it? Could someone please explain it to me?

Great, now I feel like a jerk. But I just don't see what all the commotion is about.
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# 142
12-05-2011, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Gun_Fodder View Post
Ok, I'm sorry, but I have to chime in on this.

The Jupiter Dreadnought has GOT to be the ugliest, silliest, and most unimaginative Federation star ship design that I have EVER seen. It looks like something that a 12 year-old would draw.

I can understand wanting a dreadnought for the Fed side, but this? This is easily the worst of the Cryptic-created ships that have appeared in this game. I like most of the original designs that they've put forth, but the Jupiter shows no such polish.

I think a Federation dreadnought could be done really well, but I would hope that they would be of a caliber on par with the rest of their designs. What I don't get is how anyone can be so enamored with such an eyesore. It looks like a flying bath tub with four, tiny warp nacelles thrown on as an afterthought. It looks awful from ANY and EVERY angle.

I swear that I'm not trying to troll anyone, but I honestly don't see the appeal of this ship. Is it simply a matter of being drawn to the power that such a ship would possess? What is it? Could someone please explain it to me?

Great, now I feel like a jerk. But I just don't see what all the commotion is about.
Well I for one like it's design and size. It just has a shape (I guess you would call that shape a bathtub) that appeals to me. It is a refreshing break from the sometimes monotonous saucer-body design that Starfleet typically uses.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm a diehard Trekkie (notice I did not say Trekker) and I love the series to death, I don't see anything wrong with a ship design like the Jupiter. It could be a prototype, a new design because of the manyfold threats the Federation faces. With the ever growing war and turmoil, Starfleet could use a ship that is tougher and larger than anything it's put out before. The Jupiter is just what I'd imagine that ship to be.

As for the graphical changes that need to be done, I agree whole heartedly with you. There are a plethora of things that need to be changed before the Jupiter becomes playable, and I believe it will be renovated before it's player launch.
  1. Lower hull section MUST be wider in comparison to the saucer section above it.
  1. The nacelles and suporting pylons need to be bulkier and slightly closer to the ship, also the nacelles should be slightly more apart
  1. It needs a polish, make it look like a playable ship and finish up the graphical issues it has.

The Jupiter has been floating around since the beginning of the game, I hope we'll see it come out soon.

-Quiiliitiila

P.S.
You didn't offend me, I've heard MUCH worse from people about this. Even to the point of off-site slurs and such. Good times!
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# 143
12-05-2011, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Quiiliitiila
Well I for one like it's design and size. It just has a shape (I guess you would call that shape a bathtub) that appeals to me. It is a refreshing break from the sometimes monotonous saucer-body design that Starfleet typically uses.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm a diehard Trekkie (notice I did not say Trekker) and I love the series to death, I don't see anything wrong with a ship design like the Jupiter. It could be a prototype, a new design because of the manyfold threats the Federation faces. With the ever growing war and turmoil, Starfleet could use a ship that is tougher and larger than anything it's put out before. The Jupiter is just what I'd imagine that ship to be.

As for the graphical changes that need to be done, I agree whole heartedly with you. There are a plethora of things that need to be changed before the Jupiter becomes playable, and I believe it will be renovated before it's player launch.
  1. Lower hull section MUST be wider in comparison to the saucer section above it.
  1. The nacelles and suporting pylons need to be bulkier and slightly closer to the ship, also the nacelles should be slightly more apart
  1. It needs a polish, make it look like a playable ship and finish up the graphical issues it has.

The Jupiter has been floating around since the beginning of the game, I hope we'll see it come out soon.

-Quiiliitiila

P.S.
You didn't offend me, I've heard MUCH worse from people about this. Even to the point of off-site slurs and such. Good times!
My argument is that, Federation (war)ships shouldn't look like the Love Boat...
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# 144
12-06-2011, 08:24 AM
Ok, so now that we know the Jupiter should be coming out relatively soon (well we hope), what type of special ability do you think it could possibly have?

For those of you late to the Jupiter forums, in the past we have come up with a few abilities that may seem familiar:

1. Point Defense System [Akira Refit]

2. Space Barrier (shield wall) [Gorn Science Ship]

3. Emergency Thrusters [Saber Refit]

4. Single Hanger Bay [Orion Vessels]

So, what are some new ideas we could come up with?

-Quiiliitiila
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# 145
12-06-2011, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Quiiliitiila
Ok, so now that we know the Jupiter should be coming out relatively soon (well we hope), what type of special ability do you think it could possibly have?

For those of you late to the Jupiter forums, in the past we have come up with a few abilities that may seem familiar:

1. Point Defense System [Akira Refit]

2. Space Barrier (shield wall) [Gorn Science Ship]

3. Emergency Thrusters [Saber Refit]

4. Single Hanger Bay [Orion Vessels]

So, what are some new ideas we could come up with?

-Quiiliitiila

A console that can change the ships appearance to make it NOT look like a Jupiter...
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# 146
12-06-2011, 09:30 AM
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A console that can change the ships appearance to make it NOT look like a Jupiter...
Heh, that actually got a chuckle out of me :^D
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# 147
12-06-2011, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Quiiliitiila
Heh, that actually got a chuckle out of me :^D
Thanks. I am not a big fan of the console deals. The differentiating abilities should be innate and every ship diverse.
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# 148
12-06-2011, 02:14 PM
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Thanks. I am not a big fan of the console deals. The differentiating abilities should be innate and every ship diverse.
I agree, plus it takes up space for other useful consoles... Plus like you said, what's in a ship if you can just take it's best ability away and put it into another ship...

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As for a new Jupiter ability, I suggest:

- A second power core of some type that gives a boost to power? (I don't want to say a second warp core, but maybe).

- Resistance to stuns and tractor beams/repulses. (Because of it's size)

- Side weapon slots?

- Large bubble shield to protect allies?

Just a few quick ideas,
-Quiiliitiila
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# 149
12-07-2011, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Quiiliitiila

- Side weapon slots?

-Quiiliitiila

They are already doing that on the Odyssey class. When not "if" they release the Jupiter Class I hope that they put side weapon slots in it to help counter the Predictably bad turn-rate.
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# 150
12-07-2011, 07:42 PM
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They are already doing that on the Odyssey class. When not "if" they release the Jupiter Class I hope that they put side weapon slots in it to help counter the Predictably bad turn-rate.
?
I've not heard of the Odyssey class... Could you explain the ship and the side weapons it is supposed to have?

Thanks,
Quiiliitiila
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