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# 501
12-28-2011, 01:31 AM
Okay okay okay.... FINALLY! Got the new version of the KDF chart up (v6.1.1), with the new ships, new tier additions, new rows and everything. I still have to try to get some pics of the new consoles, but I have the placeholders there. I'm really hoping I have all the stats right, but if you guys see anything, please let me know.

Hope you guys like all the changes. Sorry it took so long; it was almost like completely making a brand new chart. There are some things I went a little hastily through, and I plan on revisiting them, but I wanted to get out what I had so I can be working on the finishing touches while fixing anything you fine people see that needs correcting. Just be nice :p
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# 502
12-28-2011, 03:18 AM
Awesome work there!

Really shows off the KDF ships in all their glory.
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# 503
12-28-2011, 06:09 AM
Thank you. Hope you are feeling better.
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# 504
12-28-2011, 10:12 AM
Quote:
Okay okay okay.... FINALLY! Got the new version of the KDF chart up (v6.1.1), with the new ships, new tier additions, new rows and everything. I still have to try to get some pics of the new consoles, but I have the placeholders there. I'm really hoping I have all the stats right, but if you guys see anything, please let me know.

Hope you guys like all the changes. Sorry it took so long; it was almost like completely making a brand new chart. There are some things I went a little hastily through, and I plan on revisiting them, but I wanted to get out what I had so I can be working on the finishing touches while fixing anything you fine people see that needs correcting. Just be nice :p
why wouldn't we be nice? you're the creator of STO's best out-of-game charts and you've really showed the awesomeness of the Klingon chart now

still, i did notice a few things:

the Klingon shuttles and fighter are still in the old style
that x4 device thing on the Dacoit Flight-Deck Cruiser, is that part of the new update you were talking about?
your Update Log isn't updated with the new KDF changes, and your Known Issues/Upcoming Chart Changes hasn't removed the changes you've just done... but then again, after all the hard work you've done, it's such a little thing to miss :p
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# 505
12-28-2011, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Trek17
why wouldn't we be nice? you're the creator of STO's best out-of-game charts and you've really showed the awesomeness of the Klingon chart now

still, i did notice a few things:

the Klingon shuttles and fighter are still in the old style
that x4 device thing on the Dacoit Flight-Deck Cruiser, is that part of the new update you were talking about?
your Update Log isn't updated with the new KDF changes, and your Known Issues/Upcoming Chart Changes hasn't removed the changes you've just done... but then again, after all the hard work you've done, it's such a little thing to miss :p
Well, the device slot indicators on the Orion row were added as an attempt to start the KDF chart with a count indicator of devices (rather than 4 boxes of random devices, just show one of the icons with a number beside it) - the way I've been adding the DEV tab to the FED LCARS stuff.... After I made the Orion row, and saw how close to Christmas it was, I knew I needed to get a move on fixing the other two alien rows and the stats (not to mention a Jem'Hadar ship that surprised everyone at the last minute... (still trying to get my hands on that ship ) That said, the device slots are a lower priority, but will be revamped in the future to look more like they are on the Orion row.


UPDATE: Modified update logs & entire original post.
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# 506
12-28-2011, 03:28 PM
Hiya SpiderMitch.

Wow! So many ships! I applaud your efforts

I'm not sure I like the engine trails on the little paperdolls where you put the inertia setting. Seems cluttered there. Maybe I just need to get used to it.

Anyway you can tone down the purple of the Jem'Hadar ship cell? It's too bright, IMHO. Which is perfect for polaron energy in game, but stands out poorly on the otherwise beautiful KDF chart like a garish neon light. Perhaps even just thining the vertical border lines (they seem thicker than the comparable red borders above, for example). But going a few shades darker purple would benefit the KDF pallet, I think.

Also, the BO layout for the Bug is incorrect. The Lieutenant BOs are universal, not Sci/Eng.
http://www.startrekonline.com/node/2719

Will you be adding the Jem'Hadar ship to the Fed chart?

Again, thanks for all you do!
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# 507
12-30-2011, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by PatricianVetinari
Hiya SpiderMitch.

Wow! So many ships! I applaud your efforts

I'm not sure I like the engine trails on the little paperdolls where you put the inertia setting. Seems cluttered there. Maybe I just need to get used to it.

Anyway you can tone down the purple of the Jem'Hadar ship cell? It's too bright, IMHO. Which is perfect for polaron energy in game, but stands out poorly on the otherwise beautiful KDF chart like a garish neon light. Perhaps even just thining the vertical border lines (they seem thicker than the comparable red borders above, for example). But going a few shades darker purple would benefit the KDF pallet, I think.

Also, the BO layout for the Bug is incorrect. The Lieutenant BOs are universal, not Sci/Eng.
http://www.startrekonline.com/node/2719

Will you be adding the Jem'Hadar ship to the Fed chart?

Again, thanks for all you do!

You're very welcome! & Thx to everyone for the feedback!!!
I'll absolutely be putting the Jem'Hadar ship on the Fed chart as well. (I'll probably have to shove it somewhere and move it around in the future, i'm sure...) But it'll be on there!

As for the color, I kinda like the overly saturated purple, but I'll look over it again -and maybe adjust it- when I go in there and fix the BOFFs. Good catch on that, by the way.
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# 508
12-30-2011, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Trek17
Dilithilum:
Lt. Commander ships = 15,000
Commander ships = 40,000
Captain ships = 80,000
Rear Admiral, Lower and Upper Half ships = 120,000
Note: all costs are in Refined Dilithilum, and this is after the ship tokens[/color]
Did a little checking around stowiki.org, and found out that these dilithilum figures aren't just the Fed numbers, they're the KDF numbers too

and by replying to my quote, it's easier to reference too
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# 509
01-02-2012, 08:14 AM
Hey everyone! Just a quick note to wish everybody a HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Throughout the year, you guys have helped with corrections, suggestions, and motivation - and it's definitely appreciated!!! I even had an anonymous source send a gift package my way (got a little exocomp from it to help out around the bridge. LOL)
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# 510
01-02-2012, 01:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spidermitch View Post
...I kinda like the overly saturated purple, but I'll look over it again -and maybe adjust it- when I go in there and fix the BOFFs. Good catch on that, by the way.
Don't get me wrong. I love that bright (saturated?) shade of purple, too. It's just the rest of the KDF chart is dull reds and greens and the purple makes those look even more dingy by comparison, and pushes the Bug into the viewer's face in, a sort of eyesore kinda way. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if there was more than one Jem'Hadar ship so the "purple faction" was more than just the one surrounded rectangle.

It's not a big deal. It's not like I can't stand or won't use the chart now or anything. :p

I bet that bright purple will fit perfectly as is on the otherwise brigher Fed chart, though.

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