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# 21
02-08-2012, 01:36 PM
That would instantly replace every single Excelsior.
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# 22
02-08-2012, 01:38 PM
I'd be totally fine with rare c-store gated drops if it was just vanity stuff like jem'hadar or galor costumes. But gating off actual (good) ships like that?
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# 23
02-08-2012, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LtSmith
I say it should be in the C-store like the Galaxy X for 25$ make the OP worth the cash.
CBS will not approve any ships that they want to be extremely rare to be able to be just "bought" by anyone, for any price. They don't want hundreds of Fed (or KDF) players flying around with ships that don't make sense for them to be flying. The only way they can be approved to be in the game as a player ship *AT ALL* is to put it into a chance box that guarantees that there won't be a lot of them in the game.
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# 24 Science? I don't see it
02-08-2012, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Leviathan99
They call it a cruiser but it's really just a science/escort hybrid with worse turnrate than either and a blue quality scaling weapon with an interesting proc.
It's got one ensign sci slot with a lt. universal, and only 2 science consoles. How is this a sci/escort hybrid? It's got commander eng and 4 engineering consoles....it's a pure cruiser...just better at being a cruiser in the ways that matter in the game.
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# 25
02-08-2012, 01:41 PM

I challenge Cryptic to have the integrity to publish the percentages on these lock box items. They don't want to find out how many people would still buy these KNOWING what their odds are.
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# 26
02-08-2012, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mancom
I'd very much prefer nothing over this travesty.
personally id very much prefer people have a choice.

so why in your opinion is having no option at all better than having a choice?

if you dont want to buy the box then you are in no worse a position than if they never did it at all. you have no galor now, and you will have no galor going forward. your situation does not change, but at least this way people who are happy to try and buy them get the chance.

does that not leave a situation where nothing changes for you but allows others to try their luck if they so choose? again keeping in mind that it really is the only way they can keep it rare and make money in a f2p game.
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# 27
02-08-2012, 01:41 PM
its like an excelcior only better, at least it isn't head and shoulders better then other escorts like the bugship is. what an awsome turn rate it has too, and that shield modifier is lovely. i wish all the current ships had more divers stats like this, a bit less hull here, higher shields modifier there, different but equal

*edit- oh wait that's a science ensign and a universal lt... that's not ok. a cruiser that turns that well and has 5 tactical stations and 8 engineering stations would be unstoppable. unlike the odyssey that gave you the opportunity to have 5 tactical stations, you get left with only 4 engineering stations. that's not a viable build for something so big and slow. you guys got to make the ensign universal, like i thought i saw originally, or its just not balanced at all.
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# 28
02-08-2012, 01:41 PM
I'm quite surprised you went with the Galor-class as a T5 ship; as the Keldon-class was similar in deign yet more powerful so I would have assumed the Galor would be T4 along the lines of the Tactical Escorts, Exploration Cruisers, Long Range Sci Vessels, Pach Raptors, Ki'Tang BoP and Vor'Cha Battle Cruisers.

Assuming all along that the Keldon would be T5; what does this all mean for the potential future Cardassian faction? That question I would hope should have been asked internally during design discussion...


Thinking about the new weaponry that comes with this Galor I'm now guessing that we may see Phased polaron beams as rewards during the new FE series; which would be pretty cool.
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# 29
02-08-2012, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BROKEN1981
because it dont go with the ip. its the only way to get it into player hands. also makes them some nice cash
Another way to get them into the players hands would be to create a schedule that enables Cryptic to release new factions, or have those factions join either the Federation or the Klingon Empire.

Patience is a virtue after all.
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# 30
02-08-2012, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Direphoenix View Post
CBS will not approve any ships that they want to be extremely rare to be able to be just "bought" by anyone, for any price. They don't want hundreds of Fed (or KDF) players flying around with ships that don't make sense for them to be flying. The only way they can be approved to be in the game as a player ship *AT ALL* is to put it into a chance box that guarantees that there won't be a lot of them in the game.
That's a poor excuse, if I ever heard one...

The game purposely takes place some 30 years post-Nemesis. Cryptic has used this excuse, to justify things like everyone using whatever uniform style they personally prefer, to justify using outdated ship designs (NX replica, D'kyr replica etc). Why in god's name, can't they use the SAME excuse to justify people flying ships that would otherwise not have been used 30 YEARS AGO?!?!

Maybe the Cardassians joined the Federation? Or maybe the union split in two, with one half joining the Federation, the other joining the Klingon Empire? The more peaceful Cardassians would opt to join the Federation, while the more militaristic Cardassians would opt to join the Klingons.

TL;DR: Just because Feds/Klingons wouldn't be flying Cardassian ships in 2378, doesn't mean they wouldn't in 2409.
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