Originally Posted by Cosmic_One

I don't spend a lot of time trying to understand Star Trek history or continuity.

2293: Klingons are dying Let them die!. The Federation steps up to help saves the Klingons.

2344: Enterprise C destroyed trying to save a Klingon Outpost. Klingons make an alliance with the Federation.

What about the 51 years prior to that? All the years of aid and assistance the Federation gave the Klingons wasn't worth an alliance? 1 ship had to be destroyed for the Klingons to realize the Feds aren't too bad? Really?

Originally Posted by kimmera

Much of the past was a hot war, followed by an uneasy peace treaty and setting up of the neutral zone and cold war, and an alien enforced peace (the Organians threatened to destroy all federation and klingon vessels everywhere, and proved they had the ability to do so).

Originally Posted by Cosmic_One

All of that happened prior to The Undiscovered Country - many years prior, in fact. That has nothing to do with the 50 years after that.

Originally Posted by Nepht

STO reminds me more Trek TOS than Trek TNG remember the Feds in TOS were at war with the Klingons ...sometimes the 15 minuets around the table to talk stuff out in ALL the TNG era shows did my head in so much I would turn it of and watch some TOS vids .

* insert Trek TOS battle music here >:C *

Actually found the perfect vid

Originally Posted by V-Mink

I know some big burly men who throw around telephone poles for fun who would beg to differ with your analysis. :p