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# 21
03-03-2012, 08:26 AM
You know OP. Your taking it a little far, and your being unfair.

Askray is great moderator here. From what I have seen he does a good job. But your thread yesterday did break the rules. Calling out a fleet can lead to people harassing the people of that fleet. So that is why he edited out your post, but he also edited out their post because they said some things that would get them harassed too. What they said will be stuck on the forums for ever, and he was making sure that someone doesn't come along, get their name and harass them.

He was doing his job nothing more. Your point was made, but it broke the rules, and so he repaired the damage. He even provided a link for who to contact about that fleet.

But calling him out is taking it to far.
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# 22
03-03-2012, 09:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Commadore_Bob
Discussing moderation is also against the rules and while result in an infraction. (complaining about a closed thread is technically discussing moderation)

There are a number of groups that gather in STO that I would have nothing to do with because of their personal beliefs. Best thing to do is to add that fleet to your ignore list and move on with life. Don't let the stupid actions of the minority ruin your game experience.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GT01 View Post
OP, while many of us here are sympathetic to your case, and understand where you're coming from completely, this isn't the way to go about pushing your case.
/thread

This is a very unfortunate thing though OP.
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# 23
03-03-2012, 09:12 AM
Unfortunate is an understatement, what a sad and backwards bunch of people they are, not only the fleet leader, but the ones who wish to be a part of discrimination like that.
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# 24
03-03-2012, 09:13 AM
You can't "warn people on the forums" about anything. It opens up Cryptic to liability to allow warnings. Any personal, political, or moral dispute needs to be handled privately or off-site.

You could start your own website and raise the issue there. You could bring it up in the gaming press. But Cryptic has some degree of responsibility for anything that is said here and allowing posters to say certain things here, even if they're true, could create liability for Cryptic.

This is why most game forums like this prevent "naming and shaming." You could bring it up on STOked. You could write a letter to podcast UGC. There are lots of ways to raise awareness of issues or bad behavior. The forums are not a place where that will be accepted when it comes to other players.

You could bring up issues with the public behavior of developers and Cryptic is, in general, more tolerant of that but they tend to protect the privacy of in-game eventsand disputes to a fault for legal liability reasons.

You may have a legitimate gripe. The place Cryptic would want to handle it is via tickets. If that remedy doesn't work for you, take it off-site or to the press but not the forums, basically.
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# 25
03-03-2012, 09:16 AM
I'll add that the same has applied to exploits. On the forums, you don't discuss that they exist. But individual devs have discussed them and worked with press or podcasters.

There are some discussions devs are willing to have, either in private or in public, that they can't have on the forums.
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# 26
03-03-2012, 12:13 PM
This issue is something that really needs taking up with Cryptic Support so the customer service team can investigate the situation, it's not really something that need's to be debated on the forums.
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