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# 11
03-22-2012, 08:52 AM
Oh, sorry, forgot to count ground. The one and only time I did Infected Normal on the ground, we couldn't kill Rebecca Simmons, my friend and I just bailed.

I avoid the ground STFs. Borg on the ground are miserable to fight, and just no fun for me.

Done a few good Khitomer Accord ground runs though.
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# 12
03-22-2012, 08:55 AM
I love the ground missions, especially with my Science Officer. With all my self buffs up (I have a MK X medic kit) it's hard for Borg to kill me. And I don't even have the full MACO Ground set.
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# 13
03-22-2012, 09:04 AM
My worst STF experience was I was in Cure space and 3 people left, it was me and a pug with others poping in then leaving, had to bail as we had no man power.
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# 14
03-22-2012, 09:06 AM
I've had a Infected Ground Normal where everyone in the group was trying to hide behind my shield wall, so of course Becca is hitting us all for damage thanks to her gnarly force lightning powers. As I try to move around and reset my defense postion, the whole group follows me, and ignoring my telling to them to keep apart. In the end, I got Becca down by myself, which isn't fun.

Then there was the Cure Ground Elite, that I wasn't even supposed to go into, except the fleetmate I was going in with, queued us up for that by mistake, and then at the last second he bailed (Darn Brits ) SO I decided to stick it out, after my group took 5 minutes to figure out how to get past the first shield wall (Ignoring my please that they listen to me so I can tell them how), we get through a few Borg groups, to the next shield wall. At this point it became an episode of Keystone Cops, with three of the five running around. while myself and one guy smart enough to ask how, were standing around yelling at the others to stop and listen. I took the leaver penalty on that one.
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# 15
03-22-2012, 09:32 AM
I know it's not an STF as such, but the Mirror incursion (daily) event frequently annoys me.

More often than not the actual Federation Vs Terran ship fights proceed nicely. Then the ISS Stadi shows up and, more often than not, everyone goes after the Stadi. The number of times I've found myself trying (and often failing) to fight off numerous Terran battleships singlehanded as a result of almost everyone else charging off to shoot at the Stadi......
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# 16
03-22-2012, 10:03 AM
I won't claim to have had such terrible experiences as you guys- I think I just haven't run enough STF's to get a truly terrible team yet.

Instead I'll offer my closest.

I usually run Infected space because I figure, since there's no failure possibility due to nothing destructable and stuff, that I minimize the chance for idiocy. However, of course, my team is always too busy killing the nanite generators(in fact they often don't focus fire on them one at a time, lengthening the process) to notice the legions of nanite probes and spheres that keep coming through the gate. So, I valiantly break off and engage either in my raptor or odyssey (depending on what character I'm running- don't worry, my odyssey only runs one color of beams), but we end up failing the optional because I just can't kill all of them before they reach a repair point... than I get blamed for it. This also happens on Khitomer although usually it's a lot easier since it's just probes and not spheres.

But hey guys, I dunno about you, but usually I can tell if my team knows what they're doing within the first 5 minutes- doesn't that mean we can figure out what we're going to end up doing ahead of time?
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# 17
03-22-2012, 12:24 PM
Other than the Cure Ground run where my group had not one... but TWO drunk and high players talking nonsense on the mic's and playing like drunk, high idiots?

A couple of days ago on a bad Infected Space Run....

The group was mixed. My Galor, a few cruisers and a guy in a DPS escort coppin' an attitude. When one of the Rainbow Brites prematurely detonates a genny, this 'experienced' player cusses him out, insults him (the word '******' was thrown about). No problem... salvagable and one loudmouth can't ruin the entire run, right?


All the other Rainbow Brites concentrated on the two spheres that spawned after the first genny prematurely died. Nanite spheres were on the way. Only our loudmouth was taking the transformer and there was no way that two or even three of our ships could take that transformer down before the first nanite sphere reached us.

Did I mention the Rainbow Brite using Gravity well was shooting his Gravity Well at anything BUT the incoming nanite spheres? That was true the entire match. Once he even dropped the Gravity Well on the Nanite Transformer...

So I made a call. I'd buy some time, take out the nanite sphere that's closest, Eject Warp Plasma 3 every incoming sphere, and hope that buys enough time for the Rainbow Brites to get their act together and take that damn transformer down.

You can see where this is going, right?

In retrospect, I shouldn't have tried to take out that first nanite sphere. Hell, I could have destroyed the entire horde of spheres and locked them in an indefinite suspended animation, and it wouldn't have made a lick of difference. The Rainbow Brites were getting popped by spheres, and Loudmouth was screaming for some help in between complaints about PuGs and N00Bs. Meanwhile, I was throwing everything at the oncoming Nanite Sphere horde. Graviton beams, graviton console bursts, tractor beams, eject warp plasma, anything to keep the hope alive (because god knows I wasn't expecting a Gravity Well in the right spot any time soon...).

It was not enough. The rainbow brights were too busy getting their butts kicked by two spheres... and loudmouth was too busy ranting about about PuGs, N00B's, whatever elitist crap he was spouting...

To my credit, the lead nanite sphere did go down. The two after that, however...

I finally asked what's taking so long with the transformer. Rainbow Brites were silent. Loudmouth didn't say anything of note about it. So the Rainbow Brites and I had to mop up these nanite spheres and try again, as well as kill the regular spheres which were becoming too numerous. I think Loudmouth screamed about concentrating on the transformer at that point. I just sighed and tried to stop multiple spheres from tractoring and gangbeating me while trying to pull their nanite spheres away...

We did manage to mop up and destroy the nanite transformer. Thank god. So off to the next side!

Went as well as expected. The Rainbow Brites once again messed up the nanite gennies. Again, I maintain that this is salvagable, but like last time, the Rainbow Brites concentrated on the spheres. At this point I was sympathetic. They really were getting their butts handed to them...

Loudmouth once again spouts off. You could practically predict the paint by numbers elitist anti-pug and anti-noob nonsense this guy was saying. I was rather sick of his attitude and of the poor performance of the Rainbow Brites (but mostly of his poor attitude), so I finally told the group...

"Less complaints, more Gravity Well!"

And that's when Loudmouth decided... hey... it's all MY fault. The Rainbow Brites better be grateful, for from that point on, all the complaining was directed to ME.

So for the next half hour, I had to listen to Loudmouth cuss me out, accusing me of not doing the plan right, complaining that I should have been focusing on the transformer instead of slowing down the nanite spheres, PuGs, N00B's, read a guide, blah blah blah. I made the mistake of defending myself (because god knows explaining one's actions may sometime actually work as intended or advertised...). It wasn't offensive, just annoying.

When the guy called me a dumb***... that's when I figured he crossed the line.

So I told him, "Say what you will, but never insult."

Oddly enough, he didn't have a retort about that. Just the same elitist ad nauseum stuff mentioned before. And this time he's taken an interest in me... he starts questioning my experience, wondering how I could mess this up.

I replied, "I suspect your credentials as well."

To this he did have a response. He told me how many accolade points he had. Over 10 thousand... wow... not bad.

(Mine's higher, not to mention that in STF's it means jack all, but who am I to burst his bubble?)

The rest of the match went as expected. Rainbow Brites went boom. Loudmouth was being loud. I was wondering why there wasn't a 'frag teammate' feature in the game...

I had a laugh when Loudmouth got within 5 km's of the gate during the gate destruction portion of the game. I even pointed it out, to which he gave an indignant response similar to 'You are telling ME how to play?', because remember at this point our opinions of each other were low, like we saw each other as a lower evolved lifeform.

Maybe it was too passive aggressive?

Yeah, it was. But I think the point I made, that perhaps he isn't as 1337 as he thinks, that he is fallible, actually went a bit over his head.

But that's the thing about perpetually angry people like that. Nothing gets through to them. So I think the Rainbow Brites had it right by keeping quiet. Elite players wonder why there's no communication? Probably because all it's gonna get you is a lot of abuse.

So I took what I had to learn to heart. My efforts weren't going to change the outcome, so next time just focus on the transformer and let someone else take the blame when the nanite spheres come running in.

And don't feed the trolls.
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# 18 My worst Khitomer Space
03-22-2012, 12:44 PM
I copied this one from another post in another thread. It was my experiance so I can... LOL

One particular Normal Khitomer Space took well over an hour. I was the only one in there with ANY DPS at all. It was me and four Odysseys. As soon as I saw the other ships I knew it was a loss. Two took off and started attacking nodes right away WITHOUT killing the guardian. Me and the other two went after the guardian. It took several minutes to kill. The two Ody's with me had technicolor beams. But we did finally kill it. I typed several times on the chat screen for the others to come help to no avail.

After the guardian was killed I beelined it to the portal to see if there were any probes, I didn't see any but low and behold the other two Ody's had followed me. I guess they were trying to learn or something. I kept typing to tell them to one go watch the other gate and the other go help the other two. No luck.

They tried to help with the probes but their DPS was so low they couldn't kill them. I ended up flying back and forth between gates to kill the probes. After several minutes of this I noticed the first two Ody's had killed one of the nodes. What were they doing all this time? But what did I see now??? More technicolor beams.

So I go back to the other side and check for probes where the other two Ody's had started trying to kill the nodes. One of them was just happily firing away at the Gate. I typed at him to kill the nodes to no avail. He just kept firing away.

At this point I was ready to bail, three probes had made it through.

I kept running back and forth killing probes and taking shots at nodes when I could. I killed two at one point on the side of the first two Ody's while noticing they were still working on their second.

I mean SERIOUSLY! These guys were Admirals, All of them! And they couldn't even put dents in nodes or probes!

So I continued running back and forth killing anything I could. The Spheres are getting thick so I had to start killing them too.

About 30 minutes into this the one shooting the gate is STILL shooting the gate. I got right in front of him where he could see my message box and typed, 'STOP SHOOTING THE GATE NOOBE!'

No luck.

So I keep flying back and forth, I never did notice any of the Ody's die but I had other things on my mind.

45 minutes into this I'm fed up. I kill all the remaining nodes on one side, go check the probes and fly back to the other, kill a generator, fly back to the other and do it all again. By now 7 probes had made it through.

I get to the main gate and get it killed with what little help the two Ody's on that side could offer.

By now I'm pretty peaved and worn out. My trigger finger was really hurting.

But the hard part was done, I could fly back to the other side and start killing.

The Ody shooting at the Gate is STILL shooting at the gate.

So Now I am working on side two.

Here comes a three probes. I watch as an Ody starts chasing the probes. He's shooting and shooting and shooting, one of the probes pops. The other two are getting closer and closer to the gate. HE CAN'T STOP THEM! So I fly over and catch one as the other gets through.

We're at 8 through the the portal now.

Over an hour has passed, the second gate goes down and I start clearing spheres.

One of these clowns types, 'Is that it? That was easy!'


I refrained from typing what I was thinking for fear of melting my keyboard and lightning bolts crashing through the windows of my house.

Out pops Dinotra or however you spell it.

At least 15 cloakings later she dies.

Two of the Noobes took off, guess what they didn't pick up!!! LOL.
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# 19 Borg Pimp Slapp
03-22-2012, 03:07 PM
On the Ground STF's both Elite and regular sometimes if you get up in an Elite tacts face he will slap you and anyone near you for all your hit points. Its funny , messed up and its a random bug that is the worst on the ground mostly happens on infected on your way to the End boss chamber.
This random Elite tac drone slap the entire team and we all died. We called it the Borg pimp slap it has 100% Accuracy and 100% hit point crit.
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# 20
03-22-2012, 04:26 PM
I was in an infected ground (normal) match. before we even finished the first room, one of the players dropped out, then a second one got fed up when we failed the optional in the last room before the ramp to the lower levels. Right as we got to the first big room down below, another guy went AFK. We kept going, and he came back just as we got to Ogden. We couldn't get Ogden the first time through, and just as we were about to go at him again, the same guy told us to wait so he could get a phone call. We waited, because you need at least 3 to get past Ogden anyway. Half an hour later, he comes back, we failed Ogden again, and the other guy who'd been waiting with me decided he'd had enough and quit. This whole endeavor cost me an hour of time I could have spent doing something useful and another hour as I got stuck with the leaver penalty. This is exactly why we need either a votekick or a group forfeit option.

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