well when you loose 500k players and 300k subs included in the 500k for the first 3 month then yes i would say failing there are many many many good things about tor that are wonderful but space combat well its just NO.
i still have a sub because of the people i play with but more and more i am coming back to sto why cause the ground combat is complex and awesome the space is epic and really feels like a epic space fight and also when i jump with my chars in sto it does not look like i am trying to take a giant crap and only getting 2 ft of the ground.
immersion and realism are missing from swtor it just is and thats a shame here are 2 examples
1. a bounty hunter cannont use a jet pack to either escape in a fight or to travel through the game
2. the jedi and the sith are weak and pointless they are the elite of the galaxy but are portrayed like they are some first year rookies with a few magic tricks.
i can go on for days but if i had spent that amount of money making the game then i would not be impressed
Last I heard's released in other parts of the world, it will increase even more. it was still steady at 1.7 mil and when 1.2 comes in, then it will grow even more.
That said, it will still always be bigger than STO with more people willing to pay £10 per month then they were for STO.
At least TOR has 2 "FULL" factions, and 8/16 Classes compared to what STO has!
Star Wars is a bigger world wide IP then Trek and the game not only has more money pumped into, it's developers also have a better reputation (DA2 not withstanding), so I'm sure the TOR fanbase will still stick with it for some years.
STO is still on life support and I can feel another big content drought coming on.
And for the record, before the same old same old come on and talk about we are getting content, ships don't count as content in my book, C-Store stuff doesn't count as content. I'm not fooled by "everything is counted as content" speech that the devs and some of the same old same old say.
Mass Effect 3 MP is a lot of fun. I should have started it earlier, but I am a story addict and couldn't focus on anything else but completing the game.
I kind of did both side-by-side on my first playthough. It took me a few days to get my first level 20 in MP but by the time I was nearing the end of the first play, I just got in time to promote 1 level 20. Now I have either 7 or 8. Heck, losing count how fast I've been doing it. Even have another in the teens now closing in on another. If they fix the ending plot holes, I might play another class. I just wish I can play a Quarian or Asari now. I'm loving the "death blow" melee and small teleport Asari have in MP. Learning how to use them takes a minute though.
Well actually, there are a lot of cross-scifi fans such as myself. To be more specific, i'm a fan of SW, ST, and Stargate (SG Universe sucked though). Moreover, i'd have SWTOR too if it wasn't P2P (i can live with retail prices, but having to subscribe after buying the game... not a chance)
Edit: Speaking of Stargate, what's the status with SG Worlds? Last i heard, it was being reevaluated or something
Now you have given those (you know who you are), people the ammunition to say that TOR is failing!!!!!
Yeah, which sucks. But I like the game. And will return to it once I get ahead on these vet bills. Basically my neighbor's dog jumped over the hedge and attacked my dog on my front step 6 weeks ago. I got bit separating them. And my dog got his leg broken, a 4 day emergency vet unit stay, and 6 to 8 weeks in a cast. With sky high vet bills. It's been a nightmare. All because my neighbor is the stereotypical horrible pit bull owner (his dog wasn't even leashed, what the hell?) ... anyways ... gaming will be taking a backseat for a few months. (Except for the occasional jaunt into a free to play game, like this or LOTRO or the new **** thing coming in April or even Everquest).
Hopefully Aric Jorgan will remember me and email me from time to time!
Originally Posted by Armsman
SWToR doesn't have massive amounts of endgame content - just a broken PvP system they are working to fix with some player input (the recent GSWToR Guild summit); and the usual 4 instance grind to gear up for the newer end game instances they are releasing. If WoW type grind raiding is your thing - that's SWToR's endgame model.
how is what any of what you said any different from sto?????? its not!!!!!!!!
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And I never said is WAS any different - what I was responding to, was a poster who claimed SWtoR had massive ammounts of endgame content. I then went on to characterize my impression of said endgame (BTW I played SWToR for the last 4 months of it's 24/7 closed beta - and am still subbed to it and play it, as well as STO.)