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Before I begin, I'd like to say that I greatly enjoyed the "mirror universe" mini-arc in the Cardassian Front - the story was good, the battles were fun, etc.

That said, I'd like to propose a couple of adjustments to these missions and to the Terran Empire faction in general:

1 - I noticed that the faction is almost always referred to as the "Terran Federation" rather than the canon "Terran Empire", with no in-universe explanation given or even hinted at. While this isn't a big deal, I think that either an explanation should come in at one point in the missions (perhaps when conversing with James O'Brien?) or it be exclusively called the Terran Empire.

2 - I like the purple hull material on the Terran ships, but they look a lot like the material on Jem'Hadar ships. That's not really a problem, but it makes the Empire a bit less...distinctive, in my opinion. Perhaps a pale red color would be better? I know that's a matter of personal preference, of course, and it's not really a big deal anyway. Just something to consider.

3 - My only serious nitpick: there appears to be a glitch in the "ship name" system - in "Crack in the Mirror", the three runabouts are all called I.S.S. Runabout, the transports are all I.S.S. Transport, and the three frigates near the end are all I.S.S. Ship. In "The Other Side", the three battleships in drydock are all I.S.S. Battleship, and the three drydocks are labelled on the mini-map as I.S.S. Drydock. A fix to this would be much appreciated, for the sake of immersion.

4 - All Terran Empire ships and assets should be useable in the Foundry. It's kind of unfair that all the other factions have mostly everything, but the Terrans - apparently a popular faction in the Foundry - have nothing but two mislabeled ships ("Federation Battleship" and "Fek'Ihri Dreadnought").

5 - The fighters should be called "Terran Raider" (their canon designation).

I hope I don't come off as whiney or demanding. I like the missions, and most of STO's missions are lots of fun. The above are just things I personally would like to see addressed in some way, whether in a patch, a remastering, or a future mission.
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# 2
03-25-2012, 03:58 PM
It could be that the "Terran Federation" is a successor to the "Terran Empire." Regarding the ships, I'd like to see them painted in a similar way that the NX-01 was in "In A Mirror, Darkly."
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# 3
03-25-2012, 04:04 PM
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It could be that the "Terran Federation" is a successor to the "Terran Empire." Regarding the ships, I'd like to see them painted in a similar way that the NX-01 was in "In A Mirror, Darkly."
Yes, but I just want a reason to be specified in-game. Plus, "Terran Federation" doesn't sound very threatening to me.

And regarding the ships, I'm not sure the IAMD colors would be very distinctive from a distance. It would be cool close-up, though.
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# 4
03-26-2012, 02:59 PM
Your pretty much spot on, the Empire doesn't really get enough content in the foundry, especially when it comes to ships.
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# 5
03-26-2012, 03:10 PM
Yeah, there are twenty-three different Terran ships (one fighter, one runabout, three frigates, five cruisers, five escorts, five science vessels, one battleship and two dreadnoughts) not counting those weird transports in "Crack in the Mirror". At least some of them should be useable as NPC contacts in the Foundry.
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# 6
03-26-2012, 03:26 PM
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It could be that the "Terran Federation" is a successor to the "Terran Empire."
Why? the last source about the Mirror Universe had the I.S.S. Defiant that indicates Imperial Space Ship ... I like to know were this Terran Federation is being pulled from, I suspect its just a assent naming convention that have no further meaning-

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Regarding the ships, I'd like to see them painted in a similar way that the NX-01 was in "In A Mirror, Darkly."
I am going to be frank and say I really did not get it why they painted their ships yellow, I never seen a Empire using the color yellow were Cryptic choice of purple at least have foundations.

Also the first time we seen the Mirror Universe the Enterprise was almost the same ... except it had I.S.S. instead of U.S.S. and I prefer things being subtle, a slight distortion that shows things are very different and very wrong.
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# 7
03-26-2012, 04:44 PM
My guess is that after the Terran Rebelion re-established their Empire, they created a millitary arm similar to the Roman Legions and named it "Starfleet". Hence, I could see "Terran Starfleet" being reasonable.

As far as I.S.S. Runabout; Battleship; and Transport, I see your point as far as named ships, but I can also see it being more generic as far as "I.S.S. designated vessle".

I used the Terran assets extensively in my mission "Battle of Proxima". While it shows "crusier" groups, those crusiers could be science vessels, escorts, or traditional crusiers. Only the Dreadnaught, Battleship, and Frigates don't change(unless in a group, which changes the spawn rates). I would argue that the Terran faction has all the assets that the Federation faction has, making it one of the two most fleshed out enemy groups in the game. The foundry is only limited by your imagination.
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# 8
03-26-2012, 04:49 PM
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I used the Terran assets extensively in my mission "Battle of Proxima". While it shows "crusier" groups, those crusiers could be science vessels, escorts, or traditional crusiers. Only the Dreadnaught, Battleship, and Frigates don't change(unless in a group, which changes the spawn rates). I would argue that the Terran faction has all the assets that the Federation faction has, making it one of the two most fleshed out enemy groups in the game. The foundry is only limited by your imagination.
What I mean is, we only have two Terran ships as NPC contacts (rather than NPC groups, which you're referring to). We should have each Terran ship costume available in addition to the mobs, which we can use to re-skin other ships.
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# 9
04-16-2012, 10:49 AM
Any other thoughts/opinions/suggestions?
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# 10
04-16-2012, 10:31 PM
Beyond getting a Terran Space set as loot? No not really.
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