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# 661
04-05-2012, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by neoset
I have a blue con doff and i says reduce tt by 6sec and buff to starship attack patterns +8 attack patterns for 10sec. Maybe the buff to atack patterns is worth it even if the 5sec gap can't be reduced.
That will depend on how many ranks you already have in Starship Attack Patterns.

Have a look here.

If you really plan on building around slotting these Conn Officers you can squeeze a bit more out of their bonuses by making sure to only take 6 ranks of the Starship Attack Patterns.

2 Purples for example should add a total of +20, which means you would be maxxed out at 6 ranks in skill + bonus from DOFFs.
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# 662
04-07-2012, 02:38 AM
Hey guys, I need an opinion. I know there is a thread on the first page about this very same topic, but the regulars of this thread seem to be the most knowledgeable bunch when it comes to Escorts and STFs. What with the sale and bonus CP weekend, I've decided to buy a new ship. I primarily use the Advanced Escort right now, and I'm having a tough time deciding between the Defiant Retrofit and MVAE. I've done some research into the subject, and I know the pros and cons of both ships. I was just hoping to get a few more opinions about them. I only do PvE (Elite STFs), and if I ever do PvP I probably won't be very serious about it. I know the Defiant and its cloaking device is great for PvP. I'm just wondering which ship you guys prefer, and why.
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# 663
04-07-2012, 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by lushros
Hey guys, I need an opinion. I know there is a thread on the first page about this very same topic, but the regulars of this thread seem to be the most knowledgeable bunch when it comes to Escorts and STFs. What with the sale and bonus CP weekend, I've decided to buy a new ship. I primarily use the Advanced Escort right now, and I'm having a tough time deciding between the Defiant Retrofit and MVAE. I've done some research into the subject, and I know the pros and cons of both ships. I was just hoping to get a few more opinions about them. I only do PvE (Elite STFs), and if I ever do PvP I probably won't be very serious about it. I know the Defiant and its cloaking device is great for PvP. I'm just wondering which ship you guys prefer, and why.
I have both ships. I don't use cloak or MVAM. For me it comes down to the Ensign slot. Defiant-R gives you a tac ens and the AE gives you a Sci Ens. I flew the Defiant for along time. Lately though, I've though I've been flying the Advanced with Tachyon Beam in the Sci Ens slot. Since I also have torpedo spread 3 I like having a little bit of extra punch to knock down the shields before I cut loose with my torp launcher. I find it helpful, especially against tac cubes.
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# 664
04-07-2012, 10:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lushros
Hey guys, I need an opinion. I know there is a thread on the first page about this very same topic, but the regulars of this thread seem to be the most knowledgeable bunch when it comes to Escorts and STFs. What with the sale and bonus CP weekend, I've decided to buy a new ship. I primarily use the Advanced Escort right now, and I'm having a tough time deciding between the Defiant Retrofit and MVAE. I've done some research into the subject, and I know the pros and cons of both ships. I was just hoping to get a few more opinions about them. I only do PvE (Elite STFs), and if I ever do PvP I probably won't be very serious about it. I know the Defiant and its cloaking device is great for PvP. I'm just wondering which ship you guys prefer, and why.
I prefer the Fleet Escort. But it's up to you.
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# 665
04-07-2012, 11:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lushros
Hey guys, I need an opinion.

I also have both, and personally, I prefer the Defiant for aesthetics and also mentioned below, the extra tactical ensign. It's nice to have 2 TT's, both for the shield distribution effect and the damage buff.

The cloak is useful in PvE, I use it every time I drop out of combat (or try to) to get that nice additional burst when I approach my next target. I tried to use the MVAM a couple of times, but (and it was probably user error) I couldn't really get the "point" of the separation.
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# 666
04-11-2012, 02:01 PM
Anyone manage to outfit their Escort with all MK XII purple consoles yet?

With the nerf to Field Generators, I'm certainly noticing an increase in squishyness in Elite runs
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# 667
04-11-2012, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by USS_Ultimatum
Well, I don't actually own any purple Conn DOFFs that buff tac team.

I think common reduces rech by 2s and green by 4s.

If Purple reduces rech by 8s then you could theoretically run only 1 copy of TT with 2 of these DOFFs and it would function as if you had 2 copies of TT.

I can't really confirm if it works that way or not.
It works (have 2 blues and 1 green at the moment, saving for 2 purple) and your comment brought me to a little modified defiant version.

standard setup with dhcs, quantum launcher, turrets, 2x scatter volley, 2x torp spread and 2 attack patterns (prefer 2x beta for stf) but only 1 tac team thx to the duty offis and use the free slot for beam overload and change one dhc with a dual beam. Works especially well with a tac thx to tactical initiative.
This setup shifts the damage a little more to single target but leaves enough ae damage to handle probes, bops...easily. Also beam overload has a different timer than the other skills so you can have some really nice burst damage and get through shields before the torpedos hit. And I really like the optical effect from dual beams and beam overload .
Best run so far with this setup was a KASE with 8385 dps though normally it's somewhere between 6k and 8k damage.
I also tried setups with rapid fire and high yield because lot of people suggested it in the channels but it's only very situational useful. A KASE run where you aren't on drones duty could be improved that way. As soon as there is more than 1 enemy I prefer my setup. Also helps with plasma torpeds, scimitar drones, carrier...

For the other escorts the duty offis allow you to get 2 skills of everything else since you only need 1 tac team.
MVAM or standard Prometheus with Gravity Well (only MVAM) or Polarize Hull have their advantages but I just love the defiant.
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# 668
04-11-2012, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by kostamojen View Post
Anyone manage to outfit their Escort with all MK XII purple consoles yet?

With the nerf to Field Generators, I'm certainly noticing an increase in squishyness in Elite runs
I found that the influence from equipment is pretty small. Think you would hardly notice the difference between 4 blue MK XI consoles and 4 purple MKXII. A 26% console gives you about 7% more real damage, so a purple MK XII will be maybe 8%. A lot of investment for such a small increase.
I resently leveled a new tac and equiped him with blue MK X disruptors first which cost next to nothing and was ready for elite stfs as soon as I hit 50, managed to kill all 6 bops alone in CSE for example.
So what I'm saying, right Boff/Doff/Items setup and knowing how to handle your ship is much much more important than having MK XII weapons. So read this thread carefully .
As for the Field generator nerf it hurt a little but didn't really notice a difference while playing.
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# 669
04-11-2012, 05:02 PM
Looking at tweaking my Boffs and wanted to know what you guys think.

Right now I've got
TT1 CSV1 TS3 CSV3
T1 TS3 APD2

I'm thinking switching out the CSV1 for APB1 and APD2 for CSV2


Also, I've got the MACO Mk XII set, but I'm thinking about MACO shield with Borg 3-piece after the field generator nerf. Or would the Omega force set be better in an escort?
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# 670
04-11-2012, 10:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by micha1x2
standard setup with dhcs, quantum launcher, turrets, 2x scatter volley, 2x torp spread and 2 attack patterns (prefer 2x beta for stf) but only 1 tac team thx to the duty offis and use the free slot for beam overload and change one dhc with a dual beam. Works especially well with a tac thx to tactical initiative.
You should try and slot the DBB aft and see if you can make that work for you.

I know you generally want to be front facing, but this would allow you to do a quick turn around and finish off something like a sphere while maintaining 3x DHCs up front. It's much easier to lose a Turret than a DHC.

The Defiant in particular is suited to this, due to its higher than typical turn rate.
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