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# 11
05-14-2012, 10:58 AM
No we did not forget about the argo shuttle. I would have the skin-tight shield resilient shield. A little better than the maco but can only be used on cruisers. Or maybe special phasers like the ones we saw in nemesis. Rapid phasers dealing high dps. So its competes with cannons but can only be used on AC.
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# 12
05-14-2012, 09:32 PM
i think the impulse modifier must be a little higher because if anyone noticed it was very fast in the battle in nemesis.
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# 13
05-14-2012, 09:35 PM
and i forgot to say but it should be able to crash into other ships with 200,000 kinetic damage
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# 14
05-14-2012, 10:25 PM
This has been discussed several times before, and although this may be actually having some decent experience under my belt this time, this is probably the best refit design I've seen so far. Issues I have with it:

* Engineering slots - I have somewhat mixed feelings about the loss of a Lt. Cmdr slot for engineering. I rotate EPtS3 and it's pretty useful. That said, I realize that sacrifices have to be made, so I'd probably be fine with this, since frankly I want an assault cruiser that's better at things such as, I don't know, assaulting.
* Turn rate - I don't know about anyone else, but I'm for a solid 8.
* Hull - I almost wonder if this is a bit too MUCH. I'm not sure that it would have heavier armor than the Odyssey.

The console is an interesting idea... I should post my own ideas for consoles, I stuffed them somewhere. As I recall one of them enabled the Picard Maneuver, though I think that would be tough to pull off convincingly in a game environment.
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# 15
05-14-2012, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by voyager1021
and i forgot to say but it should be able to crash into other ships with 200,000 kinetic damage
Only if you have a female Betazoid officer in the Lt. Cmdr Universal slot.
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# 16
05-15-2012, 01:27 AM
if it was only an alternative skin for the oddy i could live with it...but i guess the former flagship deserves a refit anyway.

But i guess that won't be coming anytime soon, because they are not going to implement cruiser after cruiser.
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# 17
05-15-2012, 02:45 AM
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if it was only an alternative skin for the oddy i could live with it...but i guess the former flagship deserves a refit anyway.

But i guess that won't be coming anytime soon, because they are not going to implement cruiser after cruiser.
While I wouldn't mind seeing this, chances are it's impractical for a few reasons.

* The first is that it would require a good bit of remodeling to compensate for its auxiliary craft and saucer sep powers.
* The second is that they'd have to clear the saucer sep with CBS. I think they would be hesitant to allow this.
* The third comes down to a handling characteristics issue - the Assault Cruiser isn't the fastest ship in the fleet but it's a lot easier to handle than the space whale that is the Ody.
* The fourth is that Cryptic knows how popular the Assault Cruiser is - I daresay it's probably the most popular ship in the game, except for MAYBE the Odyssey (which seems to have a very universal appeal, though given its flexibility that's hardly surprising, even in prototype form). So they'd like to make a few more sales on it.

None are insurmountable except perhaps the second, but all in all, not going to make it cost effective. I would not be too surprised to see the AC refit coming out relatively soon, either - even though there have been many cruisers as of late, the AC is of such popularity that I imagine it might go ahead of a number of potential escorts or science ships.
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# 18
05-15-2012, 04:15 AM
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While I wouldn't mind seeing this, chances are it's impractical for a few reasons.

* The first is that it would require a good bit of remodeling to compensate for its auxiliary craft and saucer sep powers.
* The second is that they'd have to clear the saucer sep with CBS. I think they would be hesitant to allow this.
* The third comes down to a handling characteristics issue - the Assault Cruiser isn't the fastest ship in the fleet but it's a lot easier to handle than the space whale that is the Ody.
* The fourth is that Cryptic knows how popular the Assault Cruiser is - I daresay it's probably the most popular ship in the game, except for MAYBE the Odyssey (which seems to have a very universal appeal, though given its flexibility that's hardly surprising, even in prototype form). So they'd like to make a few more sales on it.

None are insurmountable except perhaps the second, but all in all, not going to make it cost effective. I would not be too surprised to see the AC refit coming out relatively soon, either - even though there have been many cruisers as of late, the AC is of such popularity that I imagine it might go ahead of a number of potential escorts or science ships.
yeah, you are right. It's just that i really love that design so much that i don't want it to be so "non-universal" as is it's free version. It's a good cruiser, but the oddy is better in my opinion. So i really, really don't want cryptic to mess this ship up with some ****** BOFF layout.
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# 19
05-15-2012, 04:41 AM
I just want to point out first that it is specificlly mentioned in the in game lore that the Enterprise E received a refit before it was lost.

For the First Contact Torpedo Salute, that is bascially High Yield 3, so a LTC Tactical would be fitting. Ramming speed is already in game from Insurrection.

I think the special console should be the Riker Maneuver, dropping a Metron cloud behind you with a short Evasive Maneuver buff and maybe a passive turn, speed, inertia buff a la Manual Steering Column.
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# 20
05-15-2012, 07:41 AM
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Only if you have a female Betazoid officer in the Lt. Cmdr Universal slot.
Your forgetting it was Picard who order hair to do it not Troi. Just like in generations she had nothing to do with the saucer section crashing.


True in sto lore it was said the the E had a major refit so I hope the Devs will add this to the sovereign class refit.
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