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Lt. Commander
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# 11
06-05-2012, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by naz1911 View Post
Think I might hang my phasers up soon.

The saying "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a new out come is bordering on insanity" is starting to describe me.
The amount of trust I had in cryptic saying to the effect "promise we'll get round to pvp soon" and not seeing anything materialise is a running joke now. Just look at Mav's forum signature of broken promises.

Hopes were high for me when Cryptic stated that fleet bases will have pvp elements to it. Now "later". Sound familiar? Mav get ready to add to the list of broken promises.

I really do feel that pvp will be dropped from STO. Cryptic are just leading us on to try and milk the last bit out of us.

The systems team don't know what they are doing. Sci resists - what a screw up. Made the sci toon about as useful as a chocolate fireguard. Unbeatable scenario on tribble - what a joke it is. I bet they were thinking, "but the numbers on my screen say no one can do it."

Gozer can add all the pvp content he wants, but if the systems team carry on screwing things up, what's the point? Gozer, good luck to ya buddy. Feels like you'll be truly against it.

Is there a big rift between the various teams at Cryptic? I dunno. Sure feels like it.

Cryptic, why do you think pvp is failing and then saying no one really plays that part of the game? Thought of the answer yet? Let me tell you. You spent hardly no resources on it since STO was released.

Almost come to same drastic conclusion as someone else did recently. The systems team needs putting it politely, sacking! Then we might have a chance. Systems guys, have you ever pvp'ed to see the "fruits" (more like lack of) of your labour?

For the rest of you guys, enjoy the table top Orion dancers at Drozana. That's about as much pvp action you'll get in the foreseeable future.

Even Jupiter Force has stopped airing STOked. Sign of things to come for STO?

Question is do I wanna carry on my STO subscription? I really don't want to stop it but way things are going,
Soon gonna terminate my monthly subscription. Way to go Cryptic.
Jeez my god wow. Why so depressed man. I was thinking about buying a LTS for 199$ or like 165 euro for me. I will stick with this game no matter what.

Sorry but constnatly putting all this negative stuff on the pvp forums wont really help matters.
If ur so pessimistic u might try and leave the game right now.

Im not saying that i wouldnt want pvp in this game to improve, because i think we all want that. But again the so maniest post about the exact same subject, cryptic knows it by now. and this post wont make a 0.000001% difference to that.


Sorry, im still having fun in this game. Not much, and its mostly short lived. but its still there. Thats also because there is still hope left. but by all means, continue this negativity. If i had 0% fun in this game i would probably bail out again right now.

I think u need some more milk buddy.

Cheers.

M*T
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# 12
06-05-2012, 09:23 PM
PVP in WoW is a joke. If Blizzard keeps spoiling the porridge every patch what makes you think a company of Cryptic's standing will ever get it or anything else right?
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# 13
06-06-2012, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Darkfader1988
Jeez my god wow. Why so depressed man. I was thinking about buying a LTS for 199$ or like 165 euro for me. I will stick with this game no matter what.

Sorry but constnatly putting all this negative stuff on the pvp forums wont really help matters.
If ur so pessimistic u might try and leave the game right now.

Im not saying that i wouldnt want pvp in this game to improve, because i think we all want that. But again the so maniest post about the exact same subject, cryptic knows it by now. and this post wont make a 0.000001% difference to that.


Sorry, im still having fun in this game. Not much, and its mostly short lived. but its still there. Thats also because there is still hope left. but by all means, continue this negativity. If i had 0% fun in this game i would probably bail out again right now.

I think u need some more milk buddy.

Cheers.

M*T
Its was after a few days of playing, realizing that almost all other powers in this game are nerfed to hell so not being able to kill in a plethora of ways got me. I love my sci sci's above all else. Apart from the shock wave and a major buffed grav well with mk xii purple consoles, its pretty much useless.

Its more a frustration towards Cryptic not realizing the gem they have and polishing it so to speak. They are more content with the passer by F2P Drozana table top dancer than keeping a long term monthly subscribing STO player in game.
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# 14
06-06-2012, 12:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by darkemisary420
but Pvp is the way it is BECAUSE of listening to the various whines and complaints of our so esteemed holier than though PvP scene ..i am frankly ecstatic gozer has decided to take Pvp by the reigns and be hands on instead of flipping through the pvp sections various rants and whines and just nerfing something BECAUSE....and many players have agendas , they want the game to evolve around their build and what power THEY feeel they should only need and if a power turns up that makes them regret/rethink their build idea instead of respeccing into a better system they hop on here and cry until a system is nerfed into uselessness....just look at sci capatins...a derect result of PvP escort players...PEFECT example feedback pulse. YA you had to spec into it and basically cripple the rest of your powers just for it to be effective and because escort pilots couldnt 3 second pop you without dieing they cried on here to have it nerfed....as a matter of fact...if ANY ability effectiviliy counters the dreaded alpha strike from tactical escort players it is sure to be nerfed into uselessness....lets compare danube and siphon nerfs....siphons are still extremely op .. and renders them unable to move OR fight back as they are sitting on 0 power all across the board....and when danubes only hinder their movement NOT their ability to fight back you see hordes of klingons on here crying...when in actuallity the fighters/craft from the fed carrier are about half as effective as the fighters on the klink side



So ppl what i am getting at is i have great THANKs for gozer taking PvP by the reigns as it is dying due to PvP'er own agendas and mass rants to further break a broken system in favor of their favorite ships

I think i have said enough i hope everyone takes this at face value and dont bother trolling me becasue this will be my only post here and have a nice day

Dude, come back when you know something about the game and been here since beta. Jog along!
Lt. Commander
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# 15
06-06-2012, 12:32 AM
1. Leave
2. Come back
3. Lol
4. Repeat
5. ??????
6. More lols
Lt. Commander
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# 16
06-06-2012, 12:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Miogaruna View Post
1. Leave
2. Come back
3. Lol
4. Repeat
5. ??????
6. More lols
At stage 5 now buddy.
Lt. Commander
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# 17
06-06-2012, 01:15 AM
Bah, you silly person Naz. Don't leave right when we have a giant block of exciting starbase content coming along; our fleet needs to quit this lame pvp stuff that we've been dabbling in and focus on our core mission of PvE content and RP. Just think of the possibilities opened up by having a starbase; we'll name it HaxStar 1 and get all our Orion toons to dance together!

Aytanhi has the right of it I think; there are laughs to be had and something worthwhile about this game and community, so you'll be back if you do take a break (I hope, would miss you Naz!). I think Deus Ex + Skyrim will be enough to keep me entertained until some of Gozer's planned pvp fixes have gotten implemented. The sad reality is that until starbases are up and running, with the first round of tweaks sorted out, that is going to be the priority for the systems team; PvP balance is going to have to wait; you aren't happy about it, and neither am I, considering that my sci/sci was my first PvP toon as you'll recall. That is the reality though. Go kill some dragons, repeat step 1, then come back. kkthxchnk.
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# 18
06-06-2012, 01:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by darkemisary420
but Pvp is the way it is BECAUSE of listening to the various whines and complaints of our so esteemed holier than though PvP scene ..i am frankly ecstatic gozer has decided to take Pvp by the reigns and be hands on instead of flipping through the pvp sections various rants and whines and just nerfing something BECAUSE....and many players have agendas , they want the game to evolve around their build and what power THEY feeel they should only need and if a power turns up that makes them regret/rethink their build idea instead of respeccing into a better system they hop on here and cry until a system is nerfed into uselessness....just look at sci capatins...a derect result of PvP escort players...PEFECT example feedback pulse. YA you had to spec into it and basically cripple the rest of your powers just for it to be effective and because escort pilots couldnt 3 second pop you without dieing they cried on here to have it nerfed....as a matter of fact...if ANY ability effectiviliy counters the dreaded alpha strike from tactical escort players it is sure to be nerfed into uselessness....lets compare danube and siphon nerfs....siphons are still extremely op .. and renders them unable to move OR fight back as they are sitting on 0 power all across the board....and when danubes only hinder their movement NOT their ability to fight back you see hordes of klingons on here crying...when in actuallity the fighters/craft from the fed carrier are about half as effective as the fighters on the klink side



So ppl what i am getting at is i have great THANKs for gozer taking PvP by the reigns as it is dying due to PvP'er own agendas and mass rants to further break a broken system in favor of their favorite ships

I think i have said enough i hope everyone takes this at face value and dont bother trolling me becasue this will be my only post here and have a nice day
Two words: Phaser Proc. As long as Fed fighters are spamming those, they'll always be OP. I've lost count of the ammount of deaths I've had with hardened, well fortified shields just because the RNG decided my time was up. It's uncommon to even have all subsystems online against that kind of phaser spam. If you can tell us that's not OP and give a good reason for it, then I'll be very impressed.
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# 19
06-06-2012, 04:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebeneezergoode
Two words: Phaser Proc. As long as Fed fighters are spamming those, they'll always be OP. I've lost count of the ammount of deaths I've had with hardened, well fortified shields just because the RNG decided my time was up. It's uncommon to even have all subsystems online against that kind of phaser spam. If you can tell us that's not OP and give a good reason for it, then I'll be very impressed.
Let’s not turn this into a spam discussion, when we all know klinks are the king of spam (pot calling kettle black imo). Anyway, I have had many bouts of wanting to quit. Problem is that there is no other star trek ip game. I also stay because of the people who play.


I also stay because I have invested so much into this game with time and real money (LTS, just bought the collector’s edition, countless c-points). I think or hope that Cryptic is realizing that PvPers do spend real money. Problem is they lack enough items and content that appeal to a PvPer. I hope it’s not too late and Gozer throw’s that hail Mary.


Naz, I know you like SCI (I hate it with a passion). I also have nightmares of what SCI use to be like. If they had SNB in the real world vets wouldn’t need to castrate animals anymore :p I think too much cc can kill a match too. They do need a happy medium.
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# 20
06-06-2012, 04:33 AM
just today - i managed to get into 3 (THREE) PVP matches Fed.vs.Kdf in 4(FOUR) hours!!!!!!!

1 - ok balance.. could be better
2 - maps? - ok , there could be WAY more maps
3 - sets? - yes, more fancy stuff for PVP only would be nice
4 - rewards? - NONE!!!!!
i don't need 1k dillithium! why dont you give us ranks, tables, statistics, tournaments!!!???
why should people waste their time with PVP when after the match - everything is forgotten?

PVP = NO FUN cause nobody is playing it ( i mean on the FED side)
in the last 4 hours it was like
queue:
fed:
0-2

kdf:
5-8

and waiting..
if they rip PVP out, this game will not longer interest me, not even with added Romulans..

Cause what shall i do with a D'deridex without PVP?
Show off my green *** in ESD? Defeat the Borg for 1024th time?


Gozer - PLS, INSTALL BLOODLINE CHAMPIONS , which is a PVP only game and has EVERYTHING a PVP fan would want.

Play it for a couple of hours, take a look at characters History, at Tournaments, 3v3 to 5v5, premade or single.. statistics for every bloodline.. and transform what you see there in a functioning system back here.

And PLS, INFORM us what you are doing and THAT you are working on it, PLSPLSPLS, we are giving up hope...

In STO, PVP could be even more fun, cause space combat IS fun and 3D, and it's TREK, and we love our ships, and and and...


To the OP - ya know, that there is no PVP in the S6 starbases doesn't really surprise much,
because the new PVP S6 matches have to work with the new system Gozer is workin' on right now (for 6 weeks? )

So be patient, give it a last chance, my predictions are:
optimistic: August 2012
pesimistic: November-December 2012
realistic: September 2012
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