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# 1 Which ship should I get?
06-14-2012, 06:17 AM
After I saw the new Akira yesterday, I'm really excited about it (not because it finally got to be T5, just becuase it's a good ship) but I'm wondering if it is better than the other ships out there. Here is the list of ships I might get (I'm a tactical officer):

The Odyssey bundle (I'd use the tactical one)
The MVAE
The Heavy Escort Carrier
The Jem'hadar attack ship (I'd have to figure out a way to get it if it's the best)

So which one is best for me (again, tactical officer)? To me, the Armitage seems like the first Federation raptor and the first Federation flight deck ship (since it has only one hanger). I really like that I would be able to go into the fray as well as have backup with the fighters. Then there's the new Point Defense console... combine it with a torpedo spread photon and things would get really interesting. So which ship should I get? They are all expensive one way or another and once I choose a ship, I stick with it for a long time becuase I select my boffs and their skills specifically for that ship.
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# 2
06-14-2012, 06:29 AM
I don't see the tactical retrofit/ Why's that?

(That was the ship I went with for my fed tac officer, and it moves like sex)
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# 3
06-14-2012, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by voporak
After I saw the new Akira yesterday, I'm really excited about it (not because it finally got to be T5, just becuase it's a good ship) but I'm wondering if it is better than the other ships out there. Here is the list of ships I might get (I'm a tactical officer):

The Odyssey bundle (I'd use the tactical one)
The MVAE
The Heavy Escort Carrier
The Jem'hadar attack ship (I'd have to figure out a way to get it if it's the best)

So which one is best for me (again, tactical officer)? To me, the Armistice seems like the first Federation raptor and the first Federation flight deck ship (since it has only one hanger). I really like that I would be able to go into the fray as well as have backup with the fighters. Then there's the new Point Defense console... combine it with a torpedo spread photon and things would get really interesting. So which ship should I get? They are all expensive one way or another and once I choose a ship, I stick with it for a long time becuase I select my boffs and their skills specifically for that ship.
The Fleet Escort is actually a better "Raptor" than the Raptor is (save the cloak). As far as the Escort Carrier, I'm not depending on too much from one flight of fighters.
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# 4
06-14-2012, 06:56 AM
I'm a Tac too, and I'm thinking of getting th HEC for the photons, then using the console on my Fleet Escort with my Point Defense System...
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# 5
06-14-2012, 07:14 AM
I didn't list the Tactical Retrofit becuase I determined the MVAE was better. And it's always good to have those few extra fighers to take your enemy's attention away, even if for a few moments.
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# 6
06-14-2012, 07:22 AM
Might as well get the Armitage. Everyone else is.
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# 7
06-14-2012, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by whamhammer View Post
The Fleet Escort is actually a better "Raptor" than the Raptor is (save the cloak). As far as the Escort Carrier, I'm not depending on too much from one flight of fighters.
I still fly around in my little fleet escort without any major issues. It;s free to boot
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# 8
06-14-2012, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by reyan01
Might as well get the Armitage. Everyone else is.
Well, Armitage it is then. Although this ship will be much smaller than my current one, seeing as my free Odyssey (USS Dreadnought) has over 8 times the crew of the HEC. I don't think I'll be missing the Odyssey bridge that much (not the Aquarius bridge, mind you) because it is kind of bland.
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# 9
06-14-2012, 07:48 AM
As a sheer numbers game the Tactical Escort Retrofit is the Fed Raptor and the most DPS you can get in an Escort, unless a single Hanger of Fighters is really that good. And I could be wrong and they could be that good.

The MVAE and Akira trade their firepower for more utility in the form of a Lt.Com Sci or Eng BOFF. Now the MVAE's pets are incredibly lacklustre in performance the real reason to take this ship is if you want more Sci on your Escort.

As for the Akira, that IMO will easily surpass the MVAE as a more desired base ship, and a more useful ability. Spamming fighters on a 30s cooldown beats the 5m on the Vectors and the 10m on the Vector you actually want. And remember that cooldown starts at reform not at separation. Both are going to die everytime you kill a cube, but it's 30s to get your Fighters back. Probably less I'm guessing at the cooldown but it will be based on Flight Deck Officers and Aux power. Also it's implied the Akira has Carrier Commands, and that is a huge benefit. And the Saucers and Vectors sorely need that.

This IMO puts the Akira far out infront of the MVAE, and it's method of CC would be Eject Warp Plasma 1 vs the MVAE using Grav Well. And it's on a very maneuverable ship to boot.

As for the JH bug ship, more power to you if you can get your hands on it, but good luck I think the odds are lower than 1 in 1000 so buying it with EC is the only reliable way. And with it's two Universal Lts, unless you want to run 2 Sci or 2 Eng your not going to get much of a difference than running a Fleet Escort. At the end of the day I'd rank it below the MVAE and I'm already moving that into fourth place.

The Odyssey at the end of the day is a Cruiser, your never going to get the DPS that an Escort has out of it and I don't care what version your running, it's got a turn rate of 6 making it a Beam Boat. On a Cosmetic value the Odyssey has only one costume. The Akira now has five, so you can probably find a unique look.

Personal Evaluation of the Federation Escorts
1 or 2 Tactical Retrofit (Raw Firepower and Cloak)
1 or 2 Heavy Escort Carrier (Survival and Fighters)
3 Fleet Escort (Survival in PVP & STFs, Also Free)
4 MVAE (Utility in STF & PVP)
5 Advanced Escort (If you want more Sci or the look, also compatible with the MVAE Console, Also Free)
6 Jem'Hadar Attack Ship (It used to be the Fed version of the BoP, but with it's difficulty to get compared to being able to get any Combination of BOFFs you want via the C-Store I think it's value has greatly diminished)

1 or 2? Yeah I have no idea which will be top DPS in the hands of a good Captain. Why do I say PVP & STF or STF & PVP? Because I think it's more suited to that role but is still good for the other. As you can see the +1s are always above the normal variants and from a pure aesthetic decision, the Akira is my favourite design and the Thunderchild does look like an Akira 2.0
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# 10
06-14-2012, 08:23 AM
Very good analysis, DKnight!
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