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# 1 A Thought on STF Gear Gating
06-21-2012, 01:15 PM
What if collecting a full tier set gave you a discount on the next set?

Mk X costs 20. Mk XI costs 40. I imagine Mk XII will be 60 or 80 once they add that to the store and introduce Mk XIII drops.

Honestly, the current system encourages skipping sets. There's no real reason to collect Mk X gear. Even with Omega Force where you get a costume, you get the same costume with more pieces at Mk XI. (It isn't like you'd want to go back and get Mk X.)
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# 2
06-21-2012, 01:23 PM
So let me get this straight... I have to put forth MORE work, to get the same result?

I have no interest in being forced to get sub-par gear before being allowed to get others.

If I want a fancy $1,000 suit, I shouldn't be forced to first buy the $250 suit, then the $500 suit, then the $750 suit following that.

I should just be allowed to save myself unnecessary hassle, time money, and rage and just get the damn suit I wanted to begin with.
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# 3
06-21-2012, 01:24 PM
no, he's basically saying that if you happened to have a mkx weapon set, you could trade it in the get a discount on a higher set. The problem is that 'everyone' is going to have a set of mk12, so 'everyone' would get a discount form mk13.
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# 4
06-21-2012, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by rayezilla View Post
no, he's basically saying that if you happened to have a mkx weapon set, you could trade it in the get a discount on a higher set. The problem is that 'everyone' is going to have a set of mk12, so 'everyone' would get a discount form mk13.
Okay... so if I buy the $1000 suit and a new $1500 suit comes out, I should be able to trade in the first to get a discount on the second?

I can swing that. Makes more sense.
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# 5
06-21-2012, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by stoleviathan99 View Post
Honestly, the current system encourages skipping sets. There's no real reason to collect Mk X gear. Even with Omega Force where you get a costume, you get the same costume with more pieces at Mk XI. (It isn't like you'd want to go back and get Mk X.)
While I agree the current system encourages skipping sets, when I start running a character through ground for the first time I generally buy the MK X set right off the bat and ignore the MK XI unless I get rare tech.

Reasons for this:

1) I collect the necessary EDCs from Space STFs first, I largely prefer space to ground.

2) Running ground without the instant remod makes ground even less enjoyable - it's a borderline must-have IMO.



So for the price of 60, as opposed to 120, EDCs I can grab the MK X set which is not all that much inferior to the MK XI set - and I get the most important bit of all, instant re-modulation.

Last edited by dynamaxus; 06-21-2012 at 08:11 PM.
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# 6
06-21-2012, 08:08 PM
Instant remod is the best. THE BEST. *swoons*
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# 7
06-21-2012, 08:13 PM
Please please please please please please with a cherry on top do not add MK XII sets for EDC. Make it proto salavage instead, it's a set earned via elite stfs and I would like it to stay that way.
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# 8
06-21-2012, 08:25 PM
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Please please please please please please with a cherry on top do not add MK XII sets for EDC. Make it proto salavage instead, it's a set earned via elite stfs and I would like it to stay that way.
It's not like the elites are any harder than normal... my 5 year old son just spams spacebar through it for me while I watch Neflix and does just fine.
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# 9
06-21-2012, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by hakaishinlegion View Post
It's not like the elites are any harder than normal... my 5 year old son just spams spacebar through it for me while I watch Neflix and does just fine.
Try spamming spacebar on ground stfs.:tongue:

But seriously though, it's about a sense of achievment which I believe can add to a game, having elite stfs allowing player to earn MK XII sets will make them more than just another daily dilithium grind.
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# 10
06-21-2012, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by defalus View Post
Try spamming spacebar on ground stfs.:tongue:

But seriously though, it's about a sense of achievment which I believe can add to a game, having elite stfs allowing player to earn MK XII sets will make them more than just another daily dilithium grind.
I'm afraid I can't agree there. The "sense of achievement" wears off phenomenally quickly once you've realised that you haven't gotten the XII set because you're fantastic at the games, but because you happened to roll a hard six with the die. Don't confuse "achievement" with "luck". I managed to pull a full ground set in four days of playing on my main toon, yet I've been trying for months to get the same set on alts.

I'd imagine that a player who has ground 300 stfs for the proto tech is just as experienced a player and worthy of the set as someone who has ground out 300 EDCs (I know they probably wouldn't cost that much, but go with it) for the same set.

Making the XII sets EDC dependent would make it entirely a question of dedication, commitment and skill. As it stands it's more to do with how lucky you are at the end of a run. For me there's no achievement in staring at my stack of 3 proto shield techs, and wondering why the hell I haven't gotten a single other tech.
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