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# 561
06-24-2012, 10:35 PM
*crys*
You're all a bunch of meanies!
*runs away*


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# 562
06-24-2012, 10:50 PM
Yesterday I ran 2 KASE.
The first one.
3 tacticals and one engineer from federation. Me from FDK.
After we killed the Tac cube. Nobody's talking and nobody knows what they have to do. Finaly, the engineer went on the left. A tac with the new fed ship went on the right. One did afk. And the last one went with me to kill the transformer. The guy with me we started nice. Suddenly one probe passed out. Then 2, then 3. The tac and engineer have not enough dps to kill 2 probes. The guy with me went on the left to help the engineer. And I helped. We couldn't exchange our duty. I mean I take the probe and the tac kill the gate. Because nobody answer in the window chat. 10 probes passed out. We failed.

The second one.
We start nice. Suddenly one probe passed out. So then a bad player left the stf because we lost optionnal.We did our job. When it's time to deal with Donatra. Another player left. For 1h30 minutes we fight against Donatra.
After this I went to bed.
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# 563
06-25-2012, 04:08 AM
Purchased the new Armitage yesterday, and fitted it with duplicates of everything on my Sao Paulo, which I always found to be a very effective ship & setup. And I set it up with the Armitage hull, Akira Pylons, Zephyr hull and Thunderchild nacelles - mostly because I think it looks great but, as a secondary bonus, it sets it apart from the 'stock' Armitage a little.

Anyway, after giving it a test-run in one of the sector Borg 'Red Alert's', I took it into Cure Normal.

What a disaster that was - I flew off, launched some fighters, and took out the two inital Borg BOP's spawns. Subsequently turned back toward the Kang to check if anyone was defending it, and EVERYONE was defending it!

So I type into Team Chat "I really don't think that the Kang needs four ships defending it"

No reply, though someone in another Armitage flew off and started shooting at generator spheres at least. As for the rest, one fool in a Fleet escort flying circles around the Kang and the other two - a Sovereign and an Atrox just sat there.

I typed a few words of advice, explained that the generators need to be dealt with first then the cubes, preferably with the cubes being killed simultaneously (Okay, I know this wasn't Elite, but still don't think it's a bad lesson for anyone who genuinely hasn't done Cure Space before). Received an acknowledgment from the player in the other Armitage, but no-one else.

Anyway, realising that this had 'fail' written all over it I simply helped the other Armitage take the generators out and subsequently killed the cube.

As I said, it seemed pretty obvious that this mission was doomed to failure. Anyway, it went like this:

The Fleet Escort circling the Kang continued to circle the Kang until the Raptors started shooting at him. He shot returned fire, but was killed in short order - amusingly, subsequent to respawn, he flew again - cannons blazing - and was taken out by a Borg tractor beam/heavy plasma torpedo combo. It's explosion took the Kang's shields out, and the Kang took a bit of a pounding.

The Atrox launched some fighters - which is fair enough - and returned fire, but otherwise just sat there and took a pounding, and went boom.

The Sovereign simply retreated and sat outside the fight-zone, needing the drops but doing nothing to assist anyone.

Now, myself and the other Armitage were busy making sure that no additional BOP's got through, but as already noted, the whole thing seemed pretty doomed - certainly, the mess that the Kang was in meant that no-one was dealing with the generators/cubes.

Anyway - myself and the other Armitage did the best we could, but the Kang was on it's last legs and I don't think that anything could have saved that mission at that point. The Atrox went boom and a Raptor fired a plasma torp that prompted the appearance of the red text of fail.

And just as was about to leave, "that was crap" appears on the chat screen.

Last edited by reyan01; 06-25-2012 at 04:13 AM.
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# 564
06-25-2012, 07:22 AM
I'm always amazed at stories of people outright failing normal STFs. I get that optionals aren't a guarantee, but sheesh. Every time I think I get a bad PuG in elites I remind myself of stories like the above.

I mean, dying to a normal raptor??

But it also sounds like you got a couple players who chose not to contribute at all (that carrier and sovvy sound like they were just there to mooch off your work), which doesn't help.
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# 565
06-25-2012, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by synkr0nized View Post
I'm always amazed at stories of people outright failing normal STFs. I get that optionals aren't a guarantee, but sheesh. Every time I think I get a bad PuG in elites I remind myself of stories like the above.

I mean, dying to a normal raptor??

But it also sounds like you got a couple players who chose not to contribute at all (that carrier and sovvy sound like they were just there to mooch off your work), which doesn't help.
Very true.

Not surprised that Normal STF's fail though - one only has to look as far as some of the zone chat conversations that occur. Some idiot bragging about how he "runs six different weapon types as there is no way the enemy can have shields that protect against all of them" - a comment not worth dignifying with a response. The sad fact is, though, that this idiot plays STF's and clearly thinks he's good at them. There also seems to be a general aversion to taking advice from players who post on the forums.

So, when you think about it, it's really little wonder that STF runs, even on normal, fail - because what chance have you got when you have people who think that Rainbow boats are the dogs doodah's on your team?!
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# 566
06-25-2012, 08:08 AM
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So I type into Team Chat "I really don't think that the Kang needs four ships defending it"
I'd ask if we did an STF together yesterday, but it's not possible for us to both be the sole Armitage with a bunch of cruisers protecting the Kang.

Of course worse than that is when you've got three cruisers protecting the time vortex in KA and still fail the optional because a couple probes got through.
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# 567
06-25-2012, 09:30 AM
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Believe it or not, not all oddys are bad. I saw one once that killed two probes! :biggrin:
i often see bad comments concerning oddys and understand why at times. i am a tac officer and use all types of ships; escorts, science and cruisers. my 3 oddys are tough ships and do plenty of damage. i only do elites and typically win them often getting the optional. So yes, not all oddys are bad. i did actually see a full rainbow oddy last night which looked really weird.

Now for a bad experience which was all my fault. I wonder if anyone else has ever done this. i upgraded my reman set and eagerly loaded them on my ship. i go into an elite and it begins. my ship will not move. wtf i think. i check my ship and the engines are not there. i feel really bad at this point. i have no option but to bail quickly in hopes that the remaining players will pick up a 5th. time out for me and i have to wait to see how my reman set works. i really like the reman set btw.

Last edited by rdm1958; 06-25-2012 at 09:35 AM.
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# 568
06-25-2012, 10:40 AM
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Very true.

Not surprised that Normal STF's fail though - one only has to look as far as some of the zone chat conversations that occur. Some idiot bragging about how he "runs six different weapon types as there is no way the enemy can have shields that protect against all of them" - a comment not worth dignifying with a response. The sad fact is, though, that this idiot plays STF's and clearly thinks he's good at them. There also seems to be a general aversion to taking advice from players who post on the forums.
It's true. I ran an KASE. There was a rainbow oddyssey. I asked the player if she really thinks she is useful. She answered that she is veteran. She said she is playing from the beta.
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Posts: 502
# 569
06-25-2012, 02:03 PM
i love this thread. i'm tryng to read every post. i can relate to all of them.

i got so tired of losing cure space elite because the kang goes down. the goal is to protect the kang and what do people do? they don't protect the kang.

i now exclusively protect the kang....no matter what. i have my extend shields on kang as much as possible. i have found that as long as i focus on kang my win rate on cse has increased dramatically. i'm not saying i am a super player or have the best ship ever. i just simply protect the kang.

when i use to work on cubes rather than protect kang it was alarming at how much that mission would fail. i still fail on protecting kang because of things you read about in this thread all the time, for example, someone destroys a cube early and then no one helps protect the kang when swarms of borg start coming.

i figure that people that read these posts know much more than those that don't, like your rainbow warriors, but if i could get one point across to everyone it would be "protect kang".

What part of "protect kang" do they not understand????
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# 570
06-25-2012, 02:12 PM
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lost cure space in 25 seconds
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That must be some kind of record - how on earth did the mission fail in 25 seconds??

i just posted concerning this. i'm serious....i was on one where we may have lost in less than 25 seconds. right at the start borg were swarming the kang......and of course no one noticed i was being over ran. typical.
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