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# 11
07-02-2012, 12:15 PM
hI hO hI hO A GRINDIng we will go......................
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# 12
07-02-2012, 12:28 PM
Some comments:
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Fleet Qin Heavy Raptor

- Now with the base hull of a Vorcha! Yeah, I know that hull isn't everything, but I'm a hull fan as I like to maximize GDF with resists when I can and this ship now has 4 Eng consoles to do it!


Fleet Somraw Raptor Retrofit

- Fleet Escort BOFFs with more hull, but less shielding.


Shame about no Qorgh, as I really like the look of that ship.


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Fleet K'T'inga battle Cruiser Retrofit

Not sure how I feel about this one, 8 weapons is nice and 11 turn rate opens some options up, but it has cruiser BOFF layout with low hull and low shields.



Fleet Vor'cha Battle Cruiser Retrofit:

I must have this. That is all.





Fleet Negh'Var Heavy Battle Cruiser

This is one is very nice too, although I think I'd go Vorcha all things considered.


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Fleet Scourge Destroyer Retrofit

Interesting. Adv Escort BOFF layout, but no bells and whistles. Defiant base turn rate, but more hull and less shields.



Those are the ships I'm generally interested in.
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# 13
07-02-2012, 12:39 PM
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I kinda like the look of the Vorc'ha as well as the Ning'tao for shiggles (2 LTCs) plus the three you mention.

I can see the Ning'Tao now
TT1 APB1 APO1 CRF3
TT1 CRF1 APO1
EPTS1 EPTS2 A2SIF2
TB1 HE2
for fun and I can finally make the Green prostitute toon that evidently is so important a draw for the KDF.

The Vorcha may take the place of my BortasQu'
Roach, it's Green Space Hooker
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# 14
07-02-2012, 12:55 PM
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Roach, it's Green Space Hooker
Is thier a difference in title based on pricing? I could call her an Escort instead.
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# 15
07-02-2012, 12:59 PM
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I kinda like the look of the Vorc'ha as well as the Ning'tao for shiggles (2 LTCs) plus the three you mention.

I can see the Ning'Tao now
TT1 APB1 APO1 CRF3
TT1 CRF1 APO1
EPTS1 EPTS2 A2SIF2
TB1 HE2
for fun and I can finally make the Green prostitute toon that evidently is so important a draw for the KDF.

The Vorcha may take the place of my BortasQu'
You know of course that the Fed escorts will tear through that like paper... The spike damage of a 5x tac console Defiant with its maneuvability and 4x fore 3x aft weapons will obliterate you during its Alpha strike before you can even say WTH. Most Fed escorts can already pull off that feat without the 5th slot. Just pray that you are not facing a team with 2 or more.

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# 16
07-02-2012, 01:02 PM
Presumably it's to balance the 5 tac console Bortas'qu.
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# 17
07-02-2012, 01:04 PM
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Presumably it's to balance the 5 tac console Bortas'qu.
The Bortesqu stands as much chance as a snail during a hail storm now. The Feds have been given a 130% boost in their SCI role on the field. What has the KDF received in that department?

Again the Feds have been given enormous TAC boost as well, so in a good team they will have stronger defence because they have better specced ships for that role.

The KDF will not have either. I've played with builds and ships long enough to know their potential in co-operative play.

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# 18
07-02-2012, 01:07 PM
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You know of course that the Fed escorts will tear through that like paper... The spike damage of a 5x tac console Defiant with its maneuvability and 4x fore 3x aft weapons will obliterate you during its Alpha strike before you can even say WTH. Most Fed escorts can already pull off that feat without the 5th slot. Just pray that you are not facing a team with 2 or more.
I know.
Evidently the feds have to have such OP vessels to compensate for their short commings. Besides since the Devs are fed focused I am not surprised that they are also fed buffing. Can't have the majority feeling dour becuase they get kicked around by the minority.
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# 19
07-02-2012, 01:12 PM
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I know.
Evidently the feds have to have such OP vessels to compensate for their short commings. Besides since the Devs are fed focused I am not surprised that they are also fed buffing. Can't have the majority feeling dour becuase they get kicked around by the minority.
True Roach, but this KDF supporter has lost his cheer.

The bottom line of this game is this.

The ability to tank damage has been increased fedside + the ability cause damage was increased Fedside
(I suspect for the PVE Kirks of this game), and in doing so Crytpic have kicked out the last remaining leg of the PvP table so to speak.

The KDF should not be satisfied with being given ships that are, yes dare I say it - obselete in the game. They are virtually replicas of existing ships in the game anyway. e.g. The K'T'inga. To me its little more than a re-skinned T5 Negh'var with some minor differences. How many of those do you see around? These ships were an after thought.

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# 20
07-02-2012, 01:50 PM
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True Roach, but this KDF supporter has lost his cheer.

The bottom line of this game is this.

The ability to tank damage has been increased fedside + the ability cause damage was increased Fedside
(I suspect for the PVE Kirks of this game), and in doing so Crytpic have kicked out the last remaining leg of the PvP table so to speak.

The KDF should not be satisfied with being given ships that are, yes dare I say it - obselete in the game. They are virtually replicas of existing ships in the game anyway. e.g. The K'T'inga. To me its little more than a re-skinned T5 Negh'var with some minor differences. How many of those do you see around? These ships were an after thought.
Are you really surprised, though?

My guess is we're supposed to just enjoy the scraps we're given, and make do. That's what I intend to do, since we're always going to be on the bottom of the heap.

Besides, we're Klingons. We make do with what we have, and win anyways.
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