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# 11
07-06-2012, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by hakaishinlegion View Post
The game is already pay to win... the consoles, the carriers, the ships, etc...

Why veer from the trend with one item?

At least that would maintain consistency.

The problem is too much focus on PvE at PvP's expense... I anxiously await to see if Cryptic will uphold its word to address this in Season 6 (as they promised with every season in the past).

It's no wonder the PvP community here is as brash as it is... they've gone shoved under the rug for two years. In that case, I'd be angry too.
Go back under your rug and stay there. I am sick of my ships being nerfed for the sake of PvP. This update, while not overwhelming, is welcome. Please continue to restore what was lost to the PvP whiners over the past 2 years.
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# 12
07-06-2012, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by noctusxxx View Post
Go back under your rug and stay there. I am sick of my ships being nerfed for the sake of PvP. This update, while not overwhelming, is welcome. Please continue to restore what was lost to the PvP whiners over the past 2 years.
Um... PvE has not ceded 1 thing to the PvPers since the game's beta... I know, been doing both since then...

If you're going to attack someone, you may as well do so with fact instead of fiction...
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# 13
07-06-2012, 12:29 PM
wait... people play PvP? Eeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww lol
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# 14
07-06-2012, 12:35 PM
Thanks you for derailing the thread from a Quad cannon qustion to a pvp vs pve debate... its really helpful... no really.
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# 15
07-06-2012, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by phantomeight View Post
wait... people play PvP? Eeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww lol
I know, in this game it is ridiculously under-developed... but only so many times I can save the Vega Colony in the same day from that exact same Tactical Cube that I must've destroyed 400 times by now before I start to question what in bloody hell I'm doing.

However... At least a human target, even in a SEVERELY underdeveloped PvP environment, will present change and provoke skill and thought. I can enter one PvP match and blast 5 PuGs to ash and rubble, then the very next match run against a TSI premade and get my ass handed to me - on the exact same map and both within the same 10 minute span. I actually have to think about what I am doing.

There is never a change in that Infected run. No challenge. I might die if I doze off at my keyboard and actually let that Heavy Plasma hit me from 9km away without shooting it down. More often than not, I'll be watching a Netflix movie on my 2nd monitor while my 6 year old son spams the spacebar for me on STO to complete the PvE objective AND the bonus.
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# 16
07-06-2012, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by kelshando View Post
Thanks you for derailing the thread from a Quad cannon qustion to a pvp vs pve debate... its really helpful... no really.
You're welcome. Enough of them, and we can only hope action is taken. Even your sarcasm can lead to victory.
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# 17
07-06-2012, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by hakaishinlegion View Post
The game is already pay to win... the consoles, the carriers, the ships, etc...
None of those are any more powerful than the free alternatives.
If ARC becomes mandatory, I'll never buy ZEN again.
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# 18
07-06-2012, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by captjamjamz View Post
Quads are getting a buff, just check Tribble. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
But are they being made non-unique so that a ship can mount more than one? When you're going for a quad-cannon Defiant theme it's a bit annoying to have your cannons cycling between quads and duals...
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# 19
07-06-2012, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by thibash View Post
None of those are any more powerful than the free alternatives.
Hm... Armitage with access to every CStore console available to make any power build they choose...

...against the free equivalent, the basic Fleet Escort. No CStore upgrades at all.

Put equal skill pilots in the two ships.

If you say it'd be a draw, I'd have to slap you for your inexperience in PvP.
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# 20
07-06-2012, 04:43 PM
I would really like to see the Quads get a buff, mainly because I would like to use them. I'm not saying make them the best, just on par with at least MkXI purple DHC's.

I got to say though, I rarely hit the PvP queues anymore. Now I just inter fleet. Why? C-store consoles, especially being spammed by the pre-mades, and its a nightmare. I'm not a PvP noob in this game by no means, but I quit jumping in with PuGs and the queues all together.
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