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Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
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Once you rank up, the NX class becomes practically useless. It really makes buying the bundle/ship a waste. I was very excited last time I received payment to buy it, but was disappointed when I learned of how weak it was (I am level 50).

I believe that all C point paid ships that are bought at lower levels, should scale with player level, and become equal with the ship level of the player. This would include weapon slots, hull plating, and pretty much anything such as turn rate and abilities. For example, the NX class would scale with escorts, and the Constitution would scale with Cruisers. I think this would be fair to justify the prices of the ships.

Is this a fair suggestion?
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 206
# 2
07-12-2012, 11:25 AM
I'd like a T3 version of the NX spaceframe, in a more "2409" style. (see Intrepid vs Bellerophon). I'd also like to see a T5 Exeter/Excalibur. (disallow us the Constitution parts if it makes CBS happy, I'm fine with that, I just love that shape!)
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Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 3
07-12-2012, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by podsix View Post
I'd like a T3 version of the NX spaceframe, in a more "2409" style. (see Intrepid vs Bellerophon). I'd also like to see a T5 Exeter/Excalibur. (disallow us the Constitution parts, I'm fine with that, I just love that shape!)
That doesn't have a lot to do with my post, but okay.

I just feel if the game is going to offer the ship for ACTUAL money, that it should at least be useful to higher level players.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 4
07-12-2012, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by enigmawolffie View Post
Once you rank up, the NX class becomes practically useless. It really makes buying the bundle/ship a waste. I was very excited last time I received payment to buy it, but was disappointed when I learned of how weak it was (I am level 50).

I believe that all C point paid ships that are bought at lower levels, should scale with player level, and become equal with the ship level of the player. This would include weapon slots, hull plating, and pretty much anything such as turn rate and abilities. For example, the NX class would scale with escorts, and the Constitution would scale with Cruisers. I think this would be fair to justify the prices of the ships.

Is this a fair suggestion?
As little as the connie makes sense getting a t5 version and competing with 25th century ships, the nx makes even less sense. A 350 year old ships going toe to toe with modern tech is kinda insane.

You get a ship that is better than the starter ship in almost every way, the grappler console which you can still use, and the multiple uniform packs. If you don't think they are worth what they cost then don't buy them...or save up your dilithium.
Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 5
07-12-2012, 11:43 AM
I bought it for the grappler... And as a gimmick
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Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 6
07-12-2012, 11:43 AM
As the shipyard description says the NX-01 is a replica which means the same ship built with 25th Century tech.

If they wanted it they could make a beefed up NX-01 heavy escort instead... but oh wait! NX-01 -> Akira -> Armitage
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Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 7
07-12-2012, 11:45 AM
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Last edited by oldkirkfan; 09-20-2012 at 02:23 PM.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 8
07-12-2012, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by enigmawolffie View Post
Once you rank up, the NX class becomes practically useless. It really makes buying the bundle/ship a waste. I was very excited last time I received payment to buy it, but was disappointed when I learned of how weak it was (I am level 50).

I believe that all C point paid ships that are bought at lower levels, should scale with player level, and become equal with the ship level of the player. This would include weapon slots, hull plating, and pretty much anything such as turn rate and abilities. For example, the NX class would scale with escorts, and the Constitution would scale with Cruisers. I think this would be fair to justify the prices of the ships.

Is this a fair suggestion?
I bought the TOS Enterprise and was also annoyed by how quickly I leveled out of it. That being said, scaling ships will never happen. Especially now that the game is free to play.

The revenue model is based on micro-transactions. They want you (need you) to buy more than one ship. Not to mention the Devs have repeatedly said that CBS will not allow a T5 constitution. Which means that the TOS enterprise can't scale.

Most of the C-store ships are end game ships, which you don't need. You can do anything in game with the free RA ship. What you're paying for is the extra shiny- the console, ability, or ship skin.

The TOS Enterprise comes with a weapon that scales. Consoles can be used at any tier, although they are usually restricted by class- for example the MVAM can only be used on the T4 or T5 prometheus.

I think it's more than fair to compensate the developers for adding the ships to the game by paying a few dollars.

Finally, if you're talking about the NX someone is going to get snarky and tell you to get an Akira.

Edited to add- oh wait, somebody already has.

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Originally Posted by carmenara View Post
If they wanted it they could make a beefed up NX-01 heavy escort instead... but oh wait! NX-01 -> Akira -> Armitage

Last edited by bohiap; 07-12-2012 at 11:53 AM.
Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3
# 9
07-12-2012, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by oldkirkfan View Post
Unfortunately, once you reach RAUH, you no longer get free ships. Anything you want has to be purchased.

If your ship scaled, you wouldn't need to buy a T5 ship. PWE would lose a lot of money.
T5 ships are free! I got my assault cruiser with a ship token, that was free when I reached rear admiral!

The paid T5 ships however, are not free.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 220
# 10
07-12-2012, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bohiap View Post
That being said, scaling ships will never happen.
Actually, making lower tier ships playable again is a major part of the season 6 fleet system...
If ARC becomes mandatory, I'll never buy ZEN again.
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