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Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 323
It blows.

This is an interesting little thing from what we have for specs but its going to take a while to get because it requires T4 Shipyard.

Basically we have

Aquarius Destroyer vs Fleet Aquarius Destroyer

Requirements: 200K Fleet Marks (20K + 4 FSM for Fleet)
Fore/Aft Weapons: 4/2 (4/2)
Base Hull: 24000 (26400)
Shield Modifier: 0.66 (0.72)
Base Crew: 50 (50)
Base Turn: 16 (16)
Device Slots: 2 (2)

Boff Stations: Cmdr Tactical / Lt. Cmdr Tactical / Lt Eng / Lt Eng / Ensign Eng
Consoles 3x Eng / 4x Tac / 2x Sci (4x Eng / 4x Tac / 2x Sci)

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Right away, I think Tank Escort but only 2 Aft Weapons is a bit weird for a T5 Ship.
Also has lower hull / shields than a Advanced Escort. Is this supposed to be even remotely good?

Last edited by sdkraust; 07-13-2012 at 08:02 PM.
Banned
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 275
# 2
07-13-2012, 07:56 PM
This is a BOP without the Universal BOFFs, 1 less weapon, and no cloak.

Completely worthless. There are better T4 (Cap-RA) ships.

Definitely not worth the VA crap.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,400
# 3
07-13-2012, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by hakaishinlegion View Post
This is a BOP without the Universal BOFFs, 1 less weapon, and no cloak.

Completely worthless. There are better T4 (Cap-RA) ships.

Definitely not worth the VA crap.
This.


I hope no one buys it, so the devs will realize how much of a failure of a design it is.


It makes no sense at all to be a VA ship with those stats and its as Hakaishin says: a BoP with all the weaknesses and none of the benefits.

Wait scratch that, actually it has WORSE shields than a Hegh'ta, even the Fleet Version has worse shields than a Hegh'ta.


Easily one of the most overpriced sucker buys available.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 275
# 4
07-13-2012, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ussultimatum View Post
This.


I hope no one buys it, so the devs will realize how much of a failure of a design it is.


It makes no sense at all to be a VA ship with those stats and its as Hakaishin says: a BoP with all the weaknesses and none of the benefits.

Wait scratch that, actually it has WORSE shields than a Hegh'ta, even the Fleet Version has worse shields than a Hegh'ta.


Easily one of the most overpriced sucker buys available.
Sad part is, you know some PvE/RP queen out there will buy it.
Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 535
# 5
07-13-2012, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by hakaishinlegion View Post
Sad part is, you know some PvE/RP queen out there will buy it.
Yo Hakaishinlegion, I'm really happy for you, and Imma let you finish, but the B'Rel Refit was the greatest C-store flop of all time. OF ALL TIME!

Gotta agree that this thing sounds pointless, though.
Ensign
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 19
# 6
07-14-2012, 01:07 AM
Most of the low-tier retrofits are pointless; continuing the escort theme, compare both versions of the refit tier-2 fedscort to the free RA Patrol Escort.
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Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 38
# 7
07-14-2012, 01:35 AM
First off: Unless I'm incredibly mistaken, the boffs are LtC/Cmd Tac, Lt Engi, Ens/Lt Uni.

Secondly:
Yeah I don't get this ship whatsoever, so much potential wasted for no real reason.
If I were to do design the ships layout, we'd have something like this:

Fore/Aft Weapons: 4/2 (4/2)
Base Hull: 22000 (24200)
Shield Modifier: 0.8 (0.88)
Base Crew: 50 (50)
Base Turn: 20 (20)
Device Slots: 2 (2)

Boff Stations:LtC/Cmd Tac, Lt Eng, Lt Sci, Ens Universal
Consoles: 3 Eng, 3 Sci, 3(4) Tac

While this wouldn't be an amazing ship, it's near BoP turn rate would definitely make it fun to fly.
I would even consider Cmd Tac, Lt/Lt/LtC Universal for boffs, to give it some extra flexibility without completely mirroring a BoP.

It should be noted, there's absolutely NO reason for this ship to this underpowered. The Hoh'sus (Bortas' lil buddy) received incredibly reasonable stats. They are both coming from the same source, neither are low tier retrofits, there's no reason for these stats.

Last edited by esuzi; 07-14-2012 at 01:37 AM.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 160
# 8
07-14-2012, 01:41 AM
it doesnt seem that bad if your running an all energy weapon build on this ship. One less turret = less power drain which adds to more power for your current weapons that are firing. If you have even flown a bird of prey youll see its not all that bad. Its not much to give up for a bit more speed and manueverability
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 38
# 9
07-14-2012, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by sonicshower View Post
it doesnt seem that bad if your running an all energy weapon build on this ship. One less turret = less power drain which adds to more power for your current weapons that are firing. If you have even flown a bird of prey youll see its not all that bad. Its not much to give up for a bit more speed and manueverability
Except you're also giving up a bunch of hull and shields, for no additional speed or maneuverability.
Ensign
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 19
# 10
07-14-2012, 01:57 AM
There _MIGHT_ be additional maneuverability, depending on the hidden inertia modifier; I wouldn't bet on it though. Also, don't BoPs get that nifty little battle cloak? :p
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Last edited by zekesulastin; 07-14-2012 at 02:00 AM.
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