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Captain
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# 11
07-14-2012, 01:16 AM
It's sad attempt for a fed Bop, without full universal slots and battlecloak. Just drain the ZENs out of fanboys for useless ship.
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# 12
07-14-2012, 03:42 AM
My mistake, those are Universal slots.
That's why it sucks so much.
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# 13
07-14-2012, 03:44 AM
Universal slots make it suck more?
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# 14 reply
07-14-2012, 05:05 AM
the only reason to get this ship is if it comes with quad cannons like the one from the odessey class escort pet so you could harvest them and put on a more decent escort a fleet patrol esort with two quads and a dual heavy and a fleet quantum torp up front would be a monster
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# 15
07-14-2012, 08:51 PM
You can only equip single quad cannons, no matter how many you have.
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# 16
07-14-2012, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sonicshower View Post
it doesnt seem that bad if your running an all energy weapon build on this ship. One less turret = less power drain which adds to more power for your current weapons that are firing. If you have even flown a bird of prey youll see its not all that bad. Its not much to give up for a bit more speed and manueverability

I think you missed a few things.

1) Aquarius Base Turn = 16 vs. Hegh'ta Base Turn = 21
2) Hegh'ta gets innate Battle Cloak vs. Aquarius gets Nothing
3) Aquarius Shield Mod = 0.66 (regular) & 0.72 (Fleet) vs. RA Hegh'ta Shield Mod 0.8
4) Hegh'ta completely universal BOFF stations including Commander & Lt Commander vs. Aquarius with Uni Lt & Ensign.
5) Hegh'ta 120k dilithium or free choice at level up vs. Aquarius at 2K Z points and T4 Fleet Shipyard.


The Aquarius is a Hegh'ta with no battle cloak and no special ability at all with even less shields than the Hegh'ta and less turn rate than a Defiant - much less a Hegh'ta.

Enhanced battle cloak, which grants both an offense bonus as well as a defense tool to compensate for poor survivability is no where to be found on this ship, nor is any equivalent ability of comparable power.


The design of this ship fails on multiple levels, on top of that it costs 2k Z points for ONE character and requires a T4 Fleet ship yard!

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# 17
07-15-2012, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ussultimatum View Post
I think you missed a few things.

1) Aquarius Base Turn = 16 vs. Hegh'ta Base Turn = 21
2) Hegh'ta gets innate Enhanced Battle Cloak vs. Aquarius gets Nothing
3) Aquarius Shield Mod = 0.66 (regular) & 0.72 (Fleet) vs. RA Hegh'ta Shield Mod 0.8
4) Hegh'ta completely universal BOFF stations including Commander & Lt Commander vs. Aquarius with Uni Lt & Ensign.
5) Hegh'ta 120k dilithium or free choice at level up vs. Aquarius at 2K Z points and T4 Fleet Shipyard.


The Aquarius is a Hegh'ta with no battle cloak and no special ability at all with even less shields than the Hegh'ta and less turn rate than a Defiant - much less a Hegh'ta.

Enhanced battle cloak, which grants both an offense bonus as well as a defense tool to compensate for poor survivability is no where to be found on this ship, nor is any equivalent ability of comparable power.


The design of this ship fails on multiple levels, on top of that it costs 2k Z points for ONE character and requires a T4 Fleet ship yard!
Just when I was about to call all of you thinking about getting this ship a complete and total flock of morons, ussultimatum does it for me, just a bit more polite than I'd have been.

So, I'll just go on record to say... ultimatum's right, and those of you praising/considering this ship are morons. Truth does not need to be polite.
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# 18
07-15-2012, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by aethon3050 View Post
Yo Hakaishinlegion, I'm really happy for you, and Imma let you finish, but the B'Rel Refit was the greatest C-store flop of all time. OF ALL TIME!

Gotta agree that this thing sounds pointless, though.
A very interesting, and dubious, claim given that Cryptic/PWE (and Atari prior to that) were not overly keen on posting ANY of their C-store sales data.

More over, I see B'Rel refits -ALL THE TIME-, right up there with Kar'Fi and Guramba...

I have no doubt the B'Rel sold less units than the Dreadnought or the Armitage, but they weren't a flop...

The hyperbolic claim in no way covers for the statement being false...
Captain
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# 19
07-15-2012, 08:48 AM
best part is, if we cry loud enough, Cryptic might give a cloak to this, so it will be like the BoP.

but they will only give a cloak, not a battle cloak, as a console (hell, they might go for the defiant one, so you have to buy the defiant too). so it will be pretty much a fail, but less ppl will feel butthurt
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# 20
07-15-2012, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by hakaishinlegion View Post
This is a BOP without the Universal BOFFs, 1 less weapon, and no cloak.

Completely worthless. There are better T4 (Cap-RA) ships.

Definitely not worth the VA crap.
The BoP has 4/2 Weapons load out too.

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Originally Posted by ferdzso0 View Post
best part is, if we cry loud enough, Cryptic might give a cloak to this, so it will be like the BoP.

but they will only give a cloak, not a battle cloak, as a console (hell, they might go for the defiant one, so you have to buy the defiant too). so it will be pretty much a fail, but less ppl will feel butthurt
What possible logical reason could there be to add a cloaking device to this ship? CBS has said no to Federation cloaking the Defiant R and Galaxy X are exceptions to this rule because on screen they did in fact have cloaking devices. Crying will not have an effect here, Starfleet don't use Cloaking Devices KDF does.

Just another note on useless/pointless ships here, the Bortasqu Hoh'Sus Bird of Prey has also been made, it's got the same layout as a Hegh'tha (Standard BoP) and a weaker hull and shields. It doesn't turn better or anything and yet it exists.

I'm scratching my head here, why would they make the detachables into Fleet ships can I sneak a 6th guy into a 5 man if he's docked with me?
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