Ensign
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 13
# 21 My wallet hurts
07-13-2012, 10:53 AM
OK, lets see if i understand this correctly..

I wanted to pvp and pve, so i needed a tier 5 ship that was competitive. That used to mean, BUY the retrofits from the c-store and equip them with dilithium gear. All real money mind you since i don't have 22.5 hrs a day to play.

Now my tier 5 c-store ships are no longer going to be competitive in pvp because the fleet variants are where it's at. That means grinding fleet currency (another friggin currency.. ) so i can earn the right to BUY a z-store upgrade token for the c-store ships that i already BOUGHT with real money.

All this, while I'm still paying a subscription...

Seriously.. wtf are you guys trying to do to me? I feel cheated on my c-store ships now and i have no desire to try to keep up with the new crap you want me to buy.

I hate to say it, I really really do. But you guys are actually hurting my feelings here. I know it seems silly, but I've gone to bat for you guys on many occasions. I've defended you on the forums over those damned lock boxes and c-store console ships, but this is actually going to be it for me. I'm officially going to back off for awhile and see how this pans out.

I will certainly miss the pvp and the fancy new ships, but I can't keep throwing away my money. I may even reduce my sub to the silver membership as there really isn't any point in paying if all I'm going to do is the occasional story mission or role play since i won't grind for gear I have to buy anyhow on a PER CHARACTER basis.

Heck, I don't even know why I bothered to write all of this since it's not likely to be read by anyone that could do anything to fix it. Maybe if it was in chinese, but alas.. i've spent all my time grinding dilithium and stf gear for my c-store ships that aren't even competitive anymore, so i never had time to learn chinese..

I'm going to shut up and go sit quietly for awhile while i consider the last two years of my life.

Thank you for the good times we've had. I wish we could get back to those days soon, but you're not leaving me much hope. Perhaps there is a way i could grind for six months and then pay you for a token to get some hope?

Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 223
# 22
07-13-2012, 02:12 PM
If you already own the c-store version it should be FREE. Any ship that's just the same ship with new stats should be FREE.

Nothing less of that is gonna make me buy a fleet ship. It's not about the money, it's about ethics. There's just so many underhanded deals that I can turn a blind eye to. This was the last straw. Guild Wars 2 here I come.
Don't fall for the fake advertising: Guild Wars 2 is a WoW clone and a poor one too.
Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 360
# 23
07-13-2012, 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sketch54301 View Post
All this, while I'm still paying a subscription...
You have my sympathies. The best advice I can give you: drop your sub, now. PWE doesn't care about gold members, and maintains the subscription option purely as a courtesy and/or obligation to the lifetimers. What they do want and care about is money from their cash shop. That is all.

If you want things in this game now or in the future, you're going to have to buy them from the cash shop. Period. So stop throwing money at them every month for no actual return, and save it for the things you want, or find something else to spend it on.
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Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 9
# 24
07-16-2012, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by robdmc View Post
In order to get a fleet ship once the Starbase tier is achieved you need to have 4 Fleet ship modules.

Each Fleet ship module costs 500 Zen

That means you have to spend $20 for a ship with no console/skin and is not an account wide unlock.
Your right, and I agree 100%! This game is very fun, but Cryptic and Perfect World are way too greedy. Isn't the very foundation of the United Federation of Planets generosity amd empathy?! I guess none of that matters out here does it? I look back, and this was all my fault, but still, we have spent over $150.00 on this game! It's obviously not free-to-play if you have to pay to actually have fun. I maybe am being a jerk, but Cryptic doesn't need this money just to maintain the servers. Ex. Say 100 people by one of the 3 Odysseys. $25.00 each (As of late Season Five, at least). That's $250 right there, and there are thousands of people that make purchases like that everyday. 3000x25 is $70,000, get the picture people?
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,043
# 25
07-16-2012, 05:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by coffee359 View Post
Your right, and I agree 100%! This game is very fun, but Cryptic and Perfect World are way too greedy. Isn't the very foundation of the United Federation of Planets generosity amd empathy?! I guess none of that matters out here does it? I look back, and this was all my fault, but still, we have spent over $150.00 on this game! It's obviously not free-to-play if you have to pay to actually have fun. I maybe am being a jerk, but Cryptic doesn't need this money just to maintain the servers. Ex. Say 100 people by one of the 3 Odysseys. $25.00 each (As of late Season Five, at least). That's $250 right there, and there are thousands of people that make purchases like that everyday. 3000x25 is $70,000, get the picture people?
Hahahaha

This isn't the Federation.

It's the Ferengi Alliance. Pre-Rom

1st Rule of acquisition-"Once you have their money, you never give it back. "

21st "Never place friendship above profit".

The fandom they exploit via Rule 98 "Every man has his price. "

The fandom should learn to use the 190th Rule of Acquisition, "Hear all, trust nothing."

As for these modules......here's an unnumbered rule "Time, like latinum, is a highly limited commodity."

Still they could every once in a while follow the 57th Rule, "Good customers are as rare as latinum. Treasure them."
Yes I support This

"Rise like Lions after slumber, In unvanquishable number, Shake your chains to earth like dew, Which in sleep had fallen on you-Ye are many they are few"
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 437
# 26
07-18-2012, 11:24 AM
makes my motivation to play this game dwindle by the day.

I can only hope many many others feel the same way, so they can see their numbers drop off and maybe do some good work.

I have no desire to grind new missions for SLIGHTLY better ships. *meh* Keep your starbase.. which apparently you cannot even enter.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 25
# 27
07-18-2012, 03:37 PM
After reading threw everyone's post, i feel sympathy for the people who have bought Z-Store ships which are not upgrade able to fleet ships.. I myself fleet victim to this.

Dreadnot Crusier = no upgrade to
Mulit Verctor Escort = no upgrade

excreta....

I think if you have bought a z-store ship it should not only be discounted but also be upgrade able no matter what, because now its obsolete . It should also be an Account wide unlock given that you have purchased the Z-Store variant.

that's my two cents id like cryptic to know how i feal victum to this money hungry game as well, its is unfair to the most loyal players they have .
Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1
# 28 fleet ships
07-18-2012, 04:41 PM
i have to say i agree with a number of people on this thread, what perfect world has done here is wrong by anyones standards.

in recent weeks people like myself have paid cash for ships because they were led to believe those ships were top tier ships. now we find out those ships are no longer top tier and that you guys never intended them to be, point in case the HEAVY ESCORT CARRIER which only came out in the last few weeks. now theres the fleet version which u expect people to pay zen for ok u say its at a discount but considering the length of time between the the 2 releases ie HEC and fleet HEC people who bought the HEC before season 6 should get the fleet version for free, same for any cash store ship people have bought before the season 6 update. to do anything else is a kick in the teeth for your oldest and subscribed players as well as the new.

come on perfect world sort your heads out and remember we are people not just wallets/ purses for you to dip into. treat your gamers with a little respect and fairness and they will reward you with loyalty and their spare cash willingly.
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