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# 31
07-21-2012, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by podsix View Post
Those Quad-Engine abominations should be called Frigates. Stargazer and Reliant seemed like they were both built for the same kinds of duty. The Ambassador Class (and a couple of more modern tech skins) should go into the Cruiser Tier left vacant by that move.
In fairness the term 'Frigate' is not very well defined. Originality they were fast, maneuverable coastal vessels. They then became fast, ocean going ships capable of independent operations (What we think of as Cruisers today). In 1793 the US put to sea six Frigates that we might call a Pocket Battleship or Battlecruiser today. In the World Wars they became small escort ships unsuitable for the open ocean (but never the less deployed on it). Between the end of WWII and 1975 what the US Navy called 'Frigates' were really guided missile cruisers (some nuclear powered!) Today its back to small escort ships.

I kinda like calling the Ambassador a 'Frigate' since it comes from a time when conflict with the Klingons was winding down and the Federation might decide to call a Cruiser a 'Frigate' to make it sound less threatening, much like we did after WWII.
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# 32
07-22-2012, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by gr8captain View Post
Leave the Amby where it deserves to be. A forgotten memory, if by mistake they do put it in the game put it where it belongs a tier 3 after the Excelsior but before the Galaxy class with 4 stations and six consoles.

Personally I think it would be a mistake as they really had a dismal battle record, the first Enterprise to be lost in battle at the hands of the enemy.

I guess that means you've never seen Star Trek 3 when the original Enterprise was scuttled because the Klingons had forced the crew to abandon it.
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# 33
07-22-2012, 06:08 PM
Thanks for that, but to clarify my position. Kirk blew up the Enterprise not the Klingons.

As for that abortion called the Enterprise C. The Romulans destroyed it.

I guess from now on I will have to explain myself to the smallest of detail for those that would like to nit pick thing down to the sub atomic level.
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# 34
07-26-2012, 10:37 AM
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As for that abortion called the Enterprise-C. The Romulans destroyed it.
Beauty is in the "eye of the beholder". While you may think she's U-G-L-Y, I would proudly take her to the prom. I think Ambassador is one of the best-looking ships ever designed.

http://www.renegade-studios.com/foru...1_3_129002.jpg

http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/...0x2000/3.3.png

http://fc04.deviantart.net/images/i/..._Beauty_S9.jpg

http://swiftsure.hyperjump.org/adams...s/image002.jpg
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# 35
07-26-2012, 12:38 PM
Cant say im a big fan of the ambassador , but then i like the vesta , which is about as big a marmite ship as its possible to have lol

i can see why people like it though , it has very similar lines to the constitution in a way with a dab of B and D thrown in for good measure , i suppose thats also why people think its looks pretty kit-bashy too though ...
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# 36
07-26-2012, 02:24 PM
Actually, you can make the Ambassador class from the Exploration Cruiser parts.
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# 37
07-26-2012, 02:31 PM
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Actually, you can make the Ambassador class from the Exploration Cruiser parts.
no you cant
the celestial is similar in appearence , but only so far as basic shape goes
the size and hull styling is way off
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# 38
07-26-2012, 02:50 PM
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no you cant
the celestial is similar in appearence , but only so far as basic shape goes
the size and hull styling is way off

Try this:

Saucer: Celestial
Hull: Celestial
Nacelles: Envoy
Neck: Galaxy
Pylons: Galaxy

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# 39
07-26-2012, 02:56 PM
like i said , as far as the basic sillouette goes yeah but that doesnt make it an ambassador class
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# 40
07-26-2012, 02:59 PM
Well, shoot. I tried to make it at least ^_^
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