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# 41
07-29-2012, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by asardetemplari View Post
"Definitely backing this one. And maybe, someday, we'd get a TNG and Movie bundle too!"

They brought it up, not me.
Don't pass the buck and blame other people. It's our own responsibility to stay on topic.

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# 42
07-30-2012, 06:53 AM
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Many KDF players may not want the Kazon, but there are those that do, and if the option is implemented in game, it's not like you HAVE to accept it.
I have ignored the appearance of the Ferasans completely (heck, they're not even a canon species, unless they are based on the other humanoid cat race from TAS!)

I was talking with some people in the fleet I'm a member of, and discussing Kazon ships. That is a no, because the Kazon have always been so technologically insuperior to the Alpha/Beta Quadrant powers. But as for members of the species in KDF crews, I don't see a problem (some of the special KDF Doffs are a bit dodgy, so whats the big deal with Boffs too?)
I too have ignored the Ferasans, tbh it was easy for Cryptic to just basically copy a Federation species and add them in rather than doing something more original. I know the Ferasan's are based off the Kzinti but still.

I would love something Kazon added to the KDF I think they would fit well after being conquered.

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I like the idea of a Voyager theamed pack but it is also leaving the K.D.F high and dry for new content yet again. I really like most the ideas but on the opposite side of the coin what can a K.D.F plaayer get out of it? I dont have a K.D.F toon but I would think they should still be able to get something.
Thanks, it's great to see some Federation only players can see the massive lack of content issue the KDF has.

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Klingons as a faction weren't even featured much in Voyager (apart from Chief Engineer B'Elanna Torres and some Klingon vagabonds) - how can you justify a Klingon ship in a Starfleet bundle pack?
Because the simple fact is that there are no Klingon bundles, how is that fair? I say if they are going to continue to do bundles they need to either have half of the bundle for one faction and the rest for the other or release two bundles one for each faction at the same time and not favour one faction over the other.
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Cryptic is sloppy. Breaking News at 11. This is what happens when there is no outline or plan and you just make up **** as you go along.
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We can tell our great grandchildren, "In my day, our cloaks were so sensitive that even dialogue broke them and we couldn't change our clothes!"
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# 43
07-30-2012, 04:25 PM
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Klingons as a faction weren't even featured much in Voyager (apart from Chief Engineer B'Elanna Torres and some Klingon vagabonds) - how can you justify a Klingon ship in a Starfleet bundle pack?
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Because the simple fact is that there are no Klingon bundles, how is that fair? I say if they are going to continue to do bundles they need to either have half of the bundle for one faction and the rest for the other or release two bundles one for each faction at the same time and not favour one faction over the other.
It's still a pretty weak reason to forcibly shoehorn KDF content into a Voyager bundle simply for "fairness". Dire desperation for KDF content should not mean breaking the canon.

An updated TOS pack that also included QuchHa' Klingon foreheads, costumes and weapons makes perfect sense because such Klingons were a key part of the series.

The DS9 pack doesn't need an equivalent KDF bundle because the current KDF costumes would suffice for depicting HemQuch Klingons from TNG-era and onwards.

So for the TNG/DS9/VOY eras at least Klingon content should not be included in Fed bundles, but instead be spun off independently.

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# 44
07-30-2012, 05:22 PM
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It's still a pretty weak reason to forcibly shoehorn KDF content into a Voyager bundle simply for "fairness". Dire desperation for KDF content should not mean breaking the canon.

An updated TOS pack that also included QuchHa' Klingon foreheads, costumes and weapons makes perfect sense because such Klingons were a key part of the series.

The DS9 pack doesn't need an equivalent KDF bundle because the current KDF costumes would suffice for depicting HemQuch Klingons from TNG-era and onwards.

So for the TNG/DS9/VOY eras at least Klingon content should not be included in Fed bundles, but instead be spun off independently.
No offense but it's like talking to a brick wall here. How would you feel if the KDF had everything and your Federation never got any content. If the bundles included equal amount of KDF content they would sell more bundles. Simple as that. The fact also remains they aren't going to update a previous bundle, it won't make them as much money. It's all about return for PWE.

Maybe if you weren't one sided you'd see this. Obviously this thread isn't actually about the bundle but a Federation only content proposal. Thanks for your time.
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Cryptic is sloppy. Breaking News at 11. This is what happens when there is no outline or plan and you just make up **** as you go along.
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We can tell our great grandchildren, "In my day, our cloaks were so sensitive that even dialogue broke them and we couldn't change our clothes!"
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# 45
07-30-2012, 05:28 PM
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No offense but it's like talking to a brick wall here. How would you feel if the KDF had everything and your Federation never got any content. If the bundles included equal amount of KDF content they would sell more bundles. Simple as that. The fact also remains they aren't going to update a previous bundle, it won't make them as much money. It's all about return for PWE.

Maybe if you weren't one sided you'd see this. Obviously this thread isn't actually about the bundle but a Federation only content proposal. Thanks for your time.
I'm not saying no KDF bundles.

I'm simply saying that forcibly putting KDF stuff in a Voyager bundle isn't worth the dev time nor would it be well-received by most fans (other than diehard KDFers).

You'd have better luck starting a separate topic for a indepedent KDF pack (maybe focus on the TOS Klinks) than hijacking this suggestion out of pure desperation.

And you're more than welcome to wallow in your self-imposed misery.

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Last edited by sumghai; 07-30-2012 at 05:31 PM.
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# 46
07-30-2012, 08:30 PM
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I'm not saying no KDF bundles.

I'm simply saying that forcibly putting KDF stuff in a Voyager bundle isn't worth the dev time nor would it be well-received by most fans (other than diehard KDFers).

You'd have better luck starting a separate topic for a indepedent KDF pack (maybe focus on the TOS Klinks) than hijacking this suggestion out of pure desperation.

And you're more than welcome to wallow in your self-imposed misery.
Now I see nothing wrong with cross faction bundles, but as a player of both factions I can see where this has merits but as what it seems that your one of those federation only players, I will not waste my time trying to show you that as a business this would be more profitable than a single only faction bundle.

And there is no need for name calling, just shows how against cross faction players and bundles you are.
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Cryptic is sloppy. Breaking News at 11. This is what happens when there is no outline or plan and you just make up **** as you go along.
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We can tell our great grandchildren, "In my day, our cloaks were so sensitive that even dialogue broke them and we couldn't change our clothes!"
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# 47
07-30-2012, 09:45 PM
The fact of the matter is you've simply hijacked this thread to push your agenda for more KDF content no matter what.

The majority of the player base is Fed-oriented, and that's where the powers that be will get their moolah from. Deal with it.

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Last edited by sumghai; 07-30-2012 at 09:50 PM.
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# 48
07-30-2012, 10:02 PM
yea really how did a federation gameplay thread about a voyager bundler turn into a KDF bundle? wrong section dude read the thread this for Federation gameplay not Kligion should be reported for posting in the wrong thread
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# 49
07-30-2012, 10:14 PM
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yea really how did a federation gameplay thread about a voyager bundler turn into a KDF bundle?
Long story short, a slippery slope from whether or not Kazon BOffs should be available for the KDF to the KDFers pushing for Kling ships to be forcibly included into a Voyager pack.

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