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One thing that really bugs me, and I'm sure a lot of you, is the fact that the ship interiors aren't really that great.

The generic ones are oversized, and the ones that are nicely done, such as the Belfast (Defiant) and TOS Constitution interiors simply do not fit for all ships, hence ruining immersion.

So here is one suggestion, that should be easy for the Cryptic art team to implement:

Redress the TOS Constitution Interior

Given the time and resource constraints the Cryptic art team seem to have with providing us more interior packs, why not just update the TOS interior to a more modern look so we can use it for various ships such as the Excelsior, Prometheus, Miranda, Armitage, Rhode Island, and so on?


What does redressing the TOS interior mean?

You keep the same dimentions, scaling, etc, but update the consoles, chairs, floor, corridors, etc to be consistent with the time period of the game. This follows the tradition that happens in real life production of the Star Trek shows and movies. All starship interiors you see in the movies and TV shows, regardless of starship class, are redresses.

The Miranda (Reliant), Grissom (Oberth), Excelsior (both Search for Spock and Undiscovered Country), Stargazer, Prometheus, and so on are redress of the Constitution bridges AND interior from the movie Enterprise / Enterprise A. Just a few little changes here and there to indicate its a different ship.


Why the TOS Constitution Interior?


Even at its current layout, a simple update to its consoles, walls, floor carpetting, chairs, etc, can fit most ships in the game, by giving it a modern look.

The issue with the TOS Connie interior is it only, canonically speaking, fits the TOS Enterprise in the game. If we were to redress it, give it a more modern look, it can fit many ships in the game.

And by producing a more modern version of this interior, we can even use the more scaled but modern interiors as a template when the tools in the Foundry are there so players can customize their own layouts.


What do you guys think? Any comments, suggestions, feedback?
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# 2
07-29-2012, 10:47 AM
I'd rather have them spend time on content to be honest.
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# 3
07-29-2012, 10:49 AM
many of us paid money for that interior

and we like it how it is
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# 4
07-29-2012, 10:53 AM
There's been talk, for some time and very recently, from the Devs and even Stahl himself, if I'm not mistaken, of using the Foundry engine to make ship bridges/interiors somewhat customizable. No word (natch) on when this may be coming or how far along in development it is... but it does seem to be something that (hopefully) is still being worked on... which would answer your suggestion quite nicely, I believe...
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# 5
07-29-2012, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by johnny111971 View Post
I'd rather have them spend time on content to be honest.
Content will come regardless, and I believe its handled by another Department of Cryptic. But my giving us an updated interior, this will free up the Art Team's involvement for more interiors and so on.

My understanding is the reason why interior packs take forever to make is its a lot of effort to make one. So get one "generic" but improved interior, such as a nicely scaled TOS Connie Interior, that we can use for all other ships.

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Originally Posted by sollvax View Post
many of us paid money for that interior

and we like it how it is
I paid for it too, but no one is suggesting that those that already bought the TOS Connie interior will loose it. Its just an additional interior using the same scaling and layout of the TOS Connie interior but more "modern".

And of course, we expect Cryptic should also charge a fair price for the new interior as well.
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# 6
07-29-2012, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by lomax6996 View Post
There's been talk, for some time and very recently, from the Devs and even Stahl himself, if I'm not mistaken, of using the Foundry engine to make ship bridges/interiors somewhat customizable. No word (natch) on when this may be coming or how far along in development it is... but it does seem to be something that (hopefully) is still being worked on... which would answer your suggestion quite nicely, I believe...
Yeah, my fear with the Foundry tools is we may still be forced to use the oversized hallways and rooms that currently exists with the generic interiors. So having a more scaled interior from redressing the TOS Connie interior with the modern look can also provide us with a more scaled template to use when the Foundry tools for interior design becomes available.
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# 7
07-29-2012, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by johnny111971 View Post
I'd rather have them spend time on content to be honest.
Ditto.

Anyway, an updated Constitution is on CBS' "Hell No" list. Granted that's normally the specs as well as the outside design. I;m sure the inner design is as well.
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# 8
07-29-2012, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by sollvax View Post
many of us paid money for that interior

and we like it how it is
Now I know you're just commenting for the "sake of" doing so. Nobody suggested redoing the existing bridge, and removing the old (original series) style entirely. I suppose you need to learn the definition of redressing in terms of production.

And yes, I know redressing happens in STO (case in point: Starbase lower levels). The thing is thou, to try and be clever about HOW you redress an area, so as to make it less obvious that it's based on something else.

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Originally Posted by mikewendell View Post
Ditto.

Anyway, an updated Constitution is on CBS' "Hell No" list. Granted that's normally the specs as well as the outside design. I;m sure the inner design is as well.
The OP is talking about the INTERIOR of the TOS-era bridge/deck-layout. CBS has nixed the idea of a T5 Constitutition Class (ship, exterior), but as far as I know, no word as to what is allowed to be done to the TOS interior. As far as I know, if you own the TOS bridge, you can use it on any ship you want. The OP is merely suggesting, ADDING an additional, more modern look for the 2409 era.

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# 9
07-30-2012, 02:59 PM
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I'd rather have them spend time on content to be honest.
Same here. Full Galaxy interior pretty please?
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# 10
07-31-2012, 09:21 AM
More content yes........undiscovered country bridge for the Connie......ummmm yes
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