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# 11
08-07-2012, 11:04 AM
DS9: stf fans station
K7: pvpers station
Drozana: RPers station
ESD: beginners station

Each station has a personnality. If you don't like it, there are plenty of social zones with an exchange and a bank, but even if you pay, you have no right to tell what kind of gamestyle is good or bad. Paying gives you no right to say that people play the game the wrong way.

As I said, K7 has more services than drozana and it's 30s away.

Why do I say that? Because I have a lot of fun leaving my fed andorian female seducively dancing on the bar.
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# 12
08-07-2012, 11:09 AM
If I'm in a hub zone like ESD, DS9, or yes, Drozana just doing my business, I pretty much ignore everybody else in the zone. I'm neither for nor against RP, I enjoy it at times but I don't have to be in-character every moment.

These hub zones are just not conducive to RP. A lot of people are there for a lot of different reasons.

Maybe this is a good argument for social zones that don't provide any real services like mail or exchange. Or where the service areas are tucked out of the way like they are on ESD. Naturally limiting the players present to people who want to be in that zone for other reasons.

Risa is not a bad example of such a place where there's no out-of-character reason to travel to.

This is also a really good use for starbases and bridges... places you can only get to by membership or invitation.

But I get that the issue is cross-faction as well. Drozana, DS9, and Deferi are the only places I can think of that are accessible to both sides.

(Forgot Nukara Prime, but it's kind of hard to socialize when you're being attacked by giant crystal spiders... )
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# 13
08-07-2012, 11:09 AM
Eh...simplest way I've found to avoid any issues at all is simply:

Turn off Zone and/or Local chat. Saves me a heap of trouble anywhere I go. Any 'trolling' issues I have to deal with are more in STFs, and other such group events.

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# 14
08-07-2012, 11:11 AM
Cryptic could make the ignore button to not only ignore a player in chat but make them invisible in the game for you also and end all the unwanted harassment.
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# 15
08-07-2012, 11:15 AM
If you are interested in PWE/Cryptic hiring/paying for Moderators... then there needs to be a surcharge to declared RP's... And you must have an unlock code to enter a RP instance.

I am not interested in, would rally against, any attempt to divert the monies I do pay into PWE/Cryptic to make and personally moderate a RP zones.
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# 16
08-07-2012, 11:17 AM
Worth it to keep the bad guys out
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# 17
08-07-2012, 11:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sollvax View Post
How about instance limiting

1 an instance only for Lifetime members and Gold members Everything fully enabled

2 An instance only for Free players NOTHING enabled (no social items no weapons)

3 a Secure area for Roleplayers with a Live full time moderator

4 an "Adult " instance strictly over 21s as above

5 a "dentist" instance (all spam systems active and only place you can go if you have a chat ban)

6 mission instance (all chats and special effects disabled)
That way you can tip the orions, amiright?

So you don't have to worry about someone else catching the girls eyes that don't have money?

I don't think anyone wants to actually read bad fanfic material for a living.

Especially if there's going to be a "champagne room".

Since that will sooo stop people from ruining your sexy time. Cause you can't get any outside of the game.
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# 18
08-07-2012, 11:41 AM
A members area, where the needs of your member are seen to? Drozana's already like horrific cross between Stringfellow's and Mos Eisley.
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# 19
08-07-2012, 11:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sollvax View Post
Worth it to keep the bad guys out
I agree with your suggestion to place you in an instance by yourself. You do, after all, want to make the game a single player.
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# 20
08-07-2012, 11:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sollvax View Post
FTP don't pay and therefore should get less

Ah, but I'm a Silver account and I buy stuff on a regular basis. By that logic, I deserve as much as a Gold does.

And you're missing the point that there's nothing stopping a Gold from engaging in trollish behavior. So if they pay, it's okay?


see "live full time moderator"

That doesn't explain anything. Live full time moderators have to be paid, trained, and wouldn't magically know everything about every player that enters the instance. All they can do is watch and step in if the rules get violated... assuming there's a rule PWE considers worth actively monitoring for violation.

as to age its on your CREDIT card details in some cases

And some parents (not me) might pay for their kid's account. Not proof that the actual player is an adult. Some adults might use a Zen card instead of a credit card.

Point being the solution is not as simple or cut-and-dry as that.


1 for each of 2 instances

only talking about Drozana here

Fair enough. Maybe they could actively monitor one zone. Still don't think they would want to, for various reasons.


they could "hire" players (free gold members for doing a two hour shift each day)

{Sigh}. Gold membership does not qualify one for sainthood, or make one fit to be an in-game moderator. PWE is NOT going to invest non-employees with magical Dev powers to kick people out. Can't you see that is just not a reasonable proposal?

Freedom isn't free im afraid
No, it isn't. It isn't easy, either. Sometimes it means fighting injustice. Sometimes it means putting up with things you don't like to preserve the freedoms that matter and protecting people who are innocent of offense.

If you went to my fleet's forum, and read the 4F's for yourself, you'd understand what I mean by that. Whether we want to believe it or not, we all have a serious and sacred responsibility to each other -- even in a game.

I don't condone anyone going out of their way to spoil anybody's fun. Nor open hostilities and "Code 5", whatever that is. There's a reason those principles I call the 4F's include the words "Friendship" and "Fair-Play". "Freedom" and "Fun" don't mean a whole lot without them.

The full version of the 4F's: http://z15.invisionfree.com/Federati...hp?showtopic=6
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