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# 11
08-09-2012, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
there are 6 appearances of it actually. the galaxy was the direct replacement for the ambassador, neither were a high production ship because they are so overwhelmingly massive compared to those mass produced oberths, excelsiors and mirandas.
I don't have a Eidetic memory so I only remember seeing it once. But every time a Fed ship is seen it's an Excelsior practically. Thanks for the info on production but.

But again that's saying that these things where super rare ships and still somewhat impractical.
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# 12
08-09-2012, 08:00 AM
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When are we going to stop getting complaints about threads requesting the Ambassador?
What complaints?
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# 13
08-09-2012, 09:15 AM
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When are we going to stop getting new threads about Ambassador?
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What complaints?
Well, yours... for starters.
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# 14
08-09-2012, 09:17 AM
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When are we going to stop getting new threads about Ambassador?
Thats a silly question. We will continue to get threads like this as long as they keep coming out with new cruisers and not one Ambassidor Class.
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# 15
08-09-2012, 09:20 AM
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I don't have a Eidetic memory so I only remember seeing it once. But every time a Fed ship is seen it's an Excelsior practically. Thanks for the info on production but.

But again that's saying that these things where super rare ships and still somewhat impractical.
I don't have to use my memory, because I have TNG seasons 1-5 and 7. All i have to do is look at it again, which I did a few weeks ago.
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# 16
08-09-2012, 10:07 AM
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Well, yours... for starters.
Don't want to get off topic, but can you actually see complaints in my posts? Should I search for a definition of a word "complain"?
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Thats a silly question. We will continue to get threads like this as long as they keep coming out with new cruisers and not one Ambassidor Class.
My question is no sillier than the one in the topic title. And I really don't understand the need to open x amount of threads concerning the same thing. Do you think it'll speed things up? Do you think the Devs will read it? They surely get sick of just seeing the name "Ambassador".

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# 17
08-09-2012, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by dknight0001 View Post
I don't have a Eidetic memory so I only remember seeing it once. But every time a Fed ship is seen it's an Excelsior practically. Thanks for the info on production but.

But again that's saying that these things where super rare ships and still somewhat impractical.
it took about 5 seconds to check memory alpha. it lists every appearance nice and neatly.

they arent supper rare just because the hero ship didn't cross paths with them that often. there would have been hundreds of ambassador class built, just not thousands like there were excelsiors and mirandas. the ambassador was the federations top battleship from the 2330s to the 2360s, until the galaxy was introduced and replaced it in that role. they just don't build as many battleships as they do light cruisers.
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# 18
08-09-2012, 12:16 PM
Guys two things:
When is people going to stop to complain about the ambassador?, when they release it.
When are they going to release the ambassador?, on tuesday XD
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# 19
08-09-2012, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
it took about 5 seconds to check memory alpha. it lists every appearance nice and neatly.

they arent supper rare just because the hero ship didn't cross paths with them that often. there would have been hundreds of ambassador class built, just not thousands like there were excelsiors and mirandas. the ambassador was the federations top battleship from the 2330s to the 2360s, until the galaxy was introduced and replaced it in that role. they just don't build as many battleships as they do light cruisers.
Valid points, I rarely use Memory Alpha, and that's a mistake I made.
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# 20
08-10-2012, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
it took about 5 seconds to check memory alpha. it lists every appearance nice and neatly.

they arent supper rare just because the hero ship didn't cross paths with them that often. there would have been hundreds of ambassador class built, just not thousands like there were excelsiors and mirandas. the ambassador was the federations top battleship from the 2330s to the 2360s, until the galaxy was introduced and replaced it in that role. they just don't build as many battleships as they do light cruisers.
If you wanna get pedantic the Feds didn't build battleships at all until the Defiant, because of Starfleet's silly "we're not a military" stance.

Personally I think they haven't gotten to the Amba because it's simply not as visually distinctive as most of the other ships that have gotten to the C-store, barring the hero designs (sorry, if it didn't get its own series or truly substantial screen time, it isn't a "hero").

Think about the new ships (meaning not reissues of existing designs) that have made it. We got the Gal-X distinctive for the 3rd nacelle, we got the Nebula, distinctive because it's half a Galaxy, we got the Oberth because it's crazy-lookin', and the NX because lol Enterprise. The Deffy Refit and the Bellerophon were both hero ships, and the Armitage is because the Akira's a fan favorite (though I guess the Ambassador's a fan fave as well). Now they're selling folks a new Sovereign (hero ship).

The real challenge at this point is releasing an Amba, with new skin options (I doubt people will cough up 2500z for a single skin unless it's OP like the Excelsior retro), that doesn't look a halfway point between an Exeter (the Connie refit) and a Galaxy. Because by default that's how the Ambassador looks to me.

Furthermore, unlike most of the other ships, it doesn't slot easily into the existing classes, either. It's smaller than a Galaxy and not a sausage, so it can't be an Exploration or Star Cruiser, and it's too peaceful-looking to be an Assault Cruiser. It's too cruiser-looking to be a science ship, and too fat to be an escort. At best it could slot in as a refit or 2nd-option to the Advanced Heavy Cruiser, but it would be confusing to have three "Advanced Heavy Cruiser" variants on the store. And it's not exotic enough to be a one-off like the Catboat or the Vulcan Dicker (misspelling intentional )

I'm not saying it won't happen, because they said it will, eventually. I am saying that it will be a challenge to fit it into what passes for a design philosophy among them right now, while making it a truly desirable option for people that want more than another in the Enterprise line.
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