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# 11
08-11-2012, 08:21 AM
i have never seen a reasonable request for help turned down in the opvp channel. if someone is willing to learn and improve himself he is most welcome.
yes there are jokes and there is mockery. mainly if you are in a pug and see your team fail miserably and not distribute shields or if someone sends boarding parties after your pets. the opvp channel is a community and therefor you tell stories or just vent your frustration. we are neither saints nor devils. i dont know why there is so much hate against pvp players. if you spend some time in the channel you will realize there are many nice and helpful people.
as everywhere in life it helps if you can laugh about your mistakes. everyone does some stupid things once in a while.
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# 12
08-11-2012, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by antlen69 View Post
how are new individuals gonna learn something from a small group of people that dont share info, or give u false info to start with...

or how is it gunna boost someone's confidence if the people ure trying to learn something from are constandly mockin' u in the same channel ?

yeah we have common goals,

i am here to realise them instead of ignoring them like in the OPVP channel
hmm... never hear anyone giving false advice to someone who really wanted help. Only as jokes between friends. Ofc, if you listen in on someone else talking, you may not realize they're joking to each other. Wil joking not be allowed in your channel?

The only people who get mocked, are those who refuse to listen to advice. Who stubbornly claim they know something even if the opposite is proved again and again. Also, people who make false claims, or boast of their own superiority, must accept a degree of mocking if they are beaten. This also goes for premades that build around an exploit. They often take heat for this, and this seems to have a positive effect on pvp gameplay.

Have you ever said in the OPvP channel "I can't hack it in pvp! any fleet wanna let me join them for a match, so I can watch and learn?" ? I guarantee you, if there is a fleet on that's not already a full team, they WILL let you join them. There are ofc a few exceptions, but most of the good fleets are happy to let someone come along.
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# 13
08-11-2012, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by dassemsto View Post
hmm... never hear anyone giving false advice to someone who really wanted help. Only as jokes between friends. Ofc, if you listen in on someone else talking, you may not realize they're joking to each other. Wil joking not be allowed in your channel?

The only people who get mocked, are those who refuse to listen to advice. Who stubbornly claim they know something even if the opposite is proved again and again. Also, people who make false claims, or boast of their own superiority, must accept a degree of mocking if they are beaten. This also goes for premades that build around an exploit. They often take heat for this, and this seems to have a positive effect on pvp gameplay.

Have you ever said in the OPvP channel "I can't hack it in pvp! any fleet wanna let me join them for a match, so I can watch and learn?" ? I guarantee you, if there is a fleet on that's not already a full team, they WILL let you join them. There are ofc a few exceptions, but most of the good fleets are happy to let someone come along.

joking around is no problem at all i tried to bring this subtile to the forums im not saying im a victum of mockery but i see it happen a lot lately in OPVP

burning somebody to the ground isnt joking anymore i dont see mutual respect anymore when sort of things happens and its scarin off people

and i dont see anyone doing something about it

noobs deserve respect too

we were all noobs once

mockin and calling names is so ez.. and i can imagine people staying out of the PVP community because of that


but im forcing nobody to join this channel i am simply providing it

Last edited by antlen69; 08-11-2012 at 09:01 AM.
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# 14
08-11-2012, 09:28 AM
Well good luck with your channel. But the pvp population is so small, it is not likely your channel will be populated much.
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# 15
08-11-2012, 09:40 AM
Frankly this I make new channel because I disagree feels abit wrong, sure you can start new channels everytime you disagree, or you can just mute the channel. Just because there are moderators in OPVP doesn't mean they will mute your offender everytime someone is being an ass.
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# 16
08-11-2012, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by antlen69 View Post
joking around is no problem at all i tried to bring this subtile to the forums im not saying im a victum of mockery but i see it happen a lot lately in OPVP

burning somebody to the ground isnt joking anymore i dont see mutual respect anymore when sort of things happens and its scarin off people

and i dont see anyone doing something about it

noobs deserve respect too

we were all noobs once

mockin and calling names is so ez.. and i can imagine people staying out of the PVP community because of that


but im forcing nobody to join this channel i am simply providing it
For the sake of transparency, would you mind to give us couple examples when what you said above happened? We could post our thoughts if it was wrong or improper...
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# 17
08-11-2012, 10:33 AM
The only people that get burned down to the ground in OrganizedPVP I find are either *******s, arrogant pricks, or fail trolls.

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# 18
08-11-2012, 11:19 AM
I don't see anyone getting burnt in OPVP, not to the extent you seem to see.

The vast VAST majority of people who PVP on a regular basis use OPVP. If I need a question answered it's where I usually end up. I get people who know what they're talking about or at least know who/where to go to in order to find something out. I see no reason to have a new channel that would do the same thing.

If something isn't broken, why try to fix it?
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# 19
08-11-2012, 11:32 AM
The only people I burn, are those that either refuse to see facts for what they are, trolls, or people that refuse to take help when offered it, when it's quite clear that they need it.


I never see any burning really going on in opvp. Occasional light hearted banter sure. But never anything serious.
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# 20
08-11-2012, 11:36 AM
The PvP playerbase is too small to support a variety of channels.

But, if there were to be another one I'd think it would be dedicated to players who want to test play mechanics and are looking for other people to test with. It would be more so people chatting in Arena Zone, for example, aren't spamming people in PvP matches. You could have different players in different zones testing and communicating w/each other.

Or there could be Red and Blue channels for 10 v 10s when you have people who aren't on a common voice coms and chat only supports 1/2 the group atm. But, these could be put together Ad Hoc. Unfortunately, Season 6 didn't upgrade the max 5/PvP team I'd hoped for w/the cryptic talk of larger player encounters.

But, there really isn't another need for a general PvP channel imo.
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