Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 14
# 1 BO Training question
08-09-2012, 05:11 PM
Is the only way to get something like EPW3 from another player (assuming you are not and ENG officer)?

Is it even possible to find a BO on the exchange with EPW3 or EPS3? Or any other source?
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 46
# 2
08-09-2012, 05:34 PM
if you're not an eng, then you will need to ask someone to train your BO. No other way around it.

I know it's annoying, but at least we can trade our BOs. Can you imagine if you couldn't? I just ask in fleet when I need to retrain stuff.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 76
# 3
08-10-2012, 01:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by saucersep View Post
Is the only way to get something like EPW3 from another player (assuming you are not and ENG officer)?

Is it even possible to find a BO on the exchange with EPW3 or EPS3? Or any other source?
The BOff trainer can train any BOff ability up to Commander, but he or she cannot train the highest version of those abiltites. So, for instance, the trainer can train Gravity Well I (Lt. Cmdr) and Gravity Well II (Cmdr), but not the Commander level Gravity Well III version.

Where you can get training for the highest level versions depends on the ability. Some abities are only available on higher quality BOffs (i.e., you either have to commission a BOff with the skill or have him train one of your existing crew). Training for others are only available if trained by a player who is of that profession and has invested enough points in specific Captain skills to be allowed to train it. Finally, for a small number of abilities, the highest level is only available on Kits or other means and cannot be trained at all (and, obviously, then only available to players).

The Wiki has a nice list of all the abilities with color coding showing where each of the highest level abilities can be trained. That page is here:

http://www.stowiki.org/Bridge_officer_powers
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,309
# 4
08-10-2012, 07:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sotaudi View Post
The BOff trainer can train any BOff ability up to Commander, but he or she cannot train the highest version of those abiltites. So, for instance, the trainer can train Gravity Well I (Lt. Cmdr) and Gravity Well II (Cmdr), but not the Commander level Gravity Well III version.
Many of the Lt. Commander abilities, such as the aforementioned Emergency Power to Weapons III, are also only Captain trainable.

Now I don't really have a problem with some skills being only captain-trainable, but I do find it infuriating that some skills can be trained by neither the boff trainer nor a captain. Aux to Structural III, Beam Overload III, TSSIII, etc. are only found on very rare boffs. That's really annoying.

(Ever try to find a KDF boff with Aux to SIF III? It's not easy)
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 8,121
# 5
08-11-2012, 06:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by futurepastnow View Post
Now I don't really have a problem with some skills being only captain-trainable, but I do find it infuriating that some skills can be trained by neither the boff trainer nor a captain. Aux to Structural III, Beam Overload III, TSSIII, etc. are only found on very rare boffs. That's really annoying.
That's what, in part, makes them "very rare" BOFFs and creates the demand for them.
Empire Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 172
# 6
08-11-2012, 02:07 PM
How does ome train these officers, i mean when they are "commissioned" into your crew they cannot be "traded" to others?
Rihannsu
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 503
# 7
08-11-2012, 03:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by henrik68 View Post
How does ome train these officers, i mean when they are "commissioned" into your crew they cannot be "traded" to others?
They can be traded, only those that are unique can't. You have to remove all their equipment first. Than trade to someone who you know for training.
Empire Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 172
# 8
08-12-2012, 09:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by taut0u View Post
They can be traded, only those that are unique can't.

With unique you mean the uncommon and rare ones?
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 8,121
# 9
08-12-2012, 10:26 AM
Unique is like the Liberated Borg you get from the Collector's Edition, or the Photonic you got as part of the "invite a friend" promotion. Any BOFF that is an account-wide unlock for you can't be traded.
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