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# 11
08-21-2012, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by capcush View Post
my point is we have amazing ships right now both normal and carriers and we really don't need a federation hammy down because its "unfair that they get it"
No offense, but i disagree. We have good cruisers and that's about it. Escorts kdf has are junk, or soon to be junk, considering the new mvam w 4 sci console and escorts w 5 tac consoles Feds have. Bop is still trash. And sci ships, other that being pretty useless right now on both factions, situation is not better either.
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# 12
08-21-2012, 10:23 AM
Equip tractor beam repulsors and you never have to fear the armitage pets.

Even better, you can do very heavy damage to the armitage hull with it if you push it with evasive maneuvers. Its got an escort hull..its squishy.
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# 13
08-21-2012, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by thibash View Post
It's second tactical slot is lt , not lt commander. So you were wrong, sorry. It hasn't got the best tactical slot setup and the best engineering slot setup. It just has the best engineering slot setup.

Learn what you want to complain about before you actually complain.
I think what you say makes the ship even better, lol. I have it on my fed tac, if memory serves me right, you are correct with layout. I would always trade the Lc tac for an engi or sci in an escort (edit: you loose an apo but there are work arounds). You can put in that Lc engi slot either aux to struct, either aux to id and add lots of survivability to it.
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# 14
08-21-2012, 10:35 AM
we kinda already have one.. just the turn rate is too low..
just bump up the turn rate on the Orion Corsair Flight Deck Cruiser Retrofit to like 12 or so, and switch the commander and ensign to universal stations, and move one of the sci or eng consoles to a tactical.. make it a Tactical Corsair Flight Deck Cruiser Retrofit and put it in the c-store.

it has 1 hanger, light hull and low shield modifier.

Last edited by aarons8; 08-21-2012 at 10:37 AM.
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# 15
08-21-2012, 11:34 AM
Don't need any more carriers, just need the tractor pets, or something equally annoying.
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# 16
08-21-2012, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by crusty8mac View Post
Don't need any more carriers, just need the tractor pets, or something equally annoying.
Agree with you on this.

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# 17
08-21-2012, 11:47 AM
KDF has drain drones. they are quite annoying.
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# 18
08-21-2012, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by crusty8mac View Post
Don't need any more carriers, just need the tractor pets, or something equally annoying.
You have bops, the kar'fi's frigates, and (especially) siphon pods. There are arguments to be made for a kdf escort carrier (though you get a flight deck cruiser in exchange, plus the only free carrier), but the 'our pets aren't as good' is too easy to shoot down.
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# 19
08-21-2012, 12:14 PM
Which is why I advocate not another carrier or the copying of fed pets but a Battle Cruiser/Raptor hybrid designed to counter pets more and be a regular battle cruiser second through a special console locked to the vessel much like the BortasQu consoles are locked.
An Anti-support ship. Seems only sensible since the feds have had several ideas created to help them fight pet spam over the years that the KDF would have come up with their own designs to do the same.

The feds have the Thunderchild and the Point Defense System and the Armitage with its Photon Torpedo PDS.
SO why not a KDF vessel with its on version of a PDS, one designed not to even fight anything larger than a frigate?

Anti-Support Craft Modules:
(2) Designated Consoles - Anti-support craft modules
Rare locked Console (can be used or removed from ship only- non universal)
Bind On Pickup

Values do not reflect skills or other modifiers

Automatically Attacks Nearby pets

195 Disruptor Damage x4 per sec for 15 sec (divided among all available pet only targets)
(3x damage to Frigates
(10x damage to small crafts)
10% proc chance Jams Sensors (against pets only)

and slap it on a new vessel all together that can be sold from the Cstore.

Rank:Tier:5
Type: Anti-support and skirmish craft
Escort Hull:32,000
Standard Shields:4,703
(Mk X)Weapons: 3 3
Can equip dual cannons.
Crew:200
Bridge Officers:
(1) LTC/Tactical
(1) LT/tactical
(1) Commander/Science
(1) Ensign/Engineer
(1) LT/ Engineer

Device Slots:2
Consoles: 4T 2E 3S
Turn Rate:12
Impulse Modifier:0.20
Bonus Power:
+10 weapons power
+5 Auxillary power
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Last edited by bitemepwe; 08-21-2012 at 12:26 PM.
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# 20
08-21-2012, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bitemepwe View Post
/*snip*
That sort of thing would be a lot more interesting, since sci is good for CC and the Gorn science ships are just dull copies of the Fed counterparts (and I doubt sell very well because of it; i've never seen one in a couple hundred STFs). Sides that are actually different but balanced (ala Terran/Zerg/Protoss) is a lot more interesting than 'same stuff, different skins.'
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