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Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 949
# 11
08-22-2012, 04:31 PM
So what your saying is you want,

A cloak (fed console)
A saucer Separation (another console)
AND the phaser lance? (compare to garumba as it's console ((yes its built in but essnetially a console)) )

3 consoles in a ship for the price of one, in a strong enough as it is ship with (strong as in 'durable) and strong dps output?

And this inst even the current FLAGSHIP.

VERY reasonable...
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 51
# 12
08-22-2012, 04:38 PM
I for myself like the KDF and would like to see it as a full faction.

However, an OP and older Dreadnought is funny to hunt down with a wolf pack of BoPs.
As long as nobody would interrupt it (which will always happen - maybe not on Kerrat).
Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 325
# 13
08-22-2012, 08:14 PM
i was getting bored so i got the gal-x about an hour ago and a few things struck me right away. first off, why does it come with standed Mk VIII equipment? that is captain level stuff(i wouldnt use it anyway, but still odd). also, the venture skin, which i understood to be a skin like any other, costs 2500 zen?!?! so the people i have seen with the venture dreadnought spent 5000 zen on one ship? not even the oddy pack costs that much. im so confused

Last edited by buddha1369; 08-22-2012 at 08:17 PM.
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# 14
08-22-2012, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by buddha1369 View Post
i was getting bored so i got the gal-x about an hour ago and a few things struck me right away. first off, why does it come with standed Mk VIII equipment? that is captain level stuff(i wouldnt use it anyway, but still odd). also, the venture skin, which i understood to be a skin like any other, costs 2500 zen?!?! so the people i have seen with the venture dreadnought spent 5000 zen on one ship? not even the oddy pack costs that much. im so confused
1. Why would you bother using standard equipment on any ship you ever buy past the first one?

2. You're making the foolish assumption that the only thing anyone ever pays for when they buy a C-store ship is the skin. When you buy a Venture you're getting a better Captain level ship that is also an account unlock, plus a special console.

Maybe whoever bought the Venture was a Captain at the time and couldn't use the Gal-X, which is T5. Maybe someone wanted the console. Maybe they wanted a better ship when their toons hit Captain. There are many reasons beyond the skin to buy a ship, so they didn't "spend 5000 zen on one ship". Or maybe they wanted the skin, like I did when I bought a Sao Paolo even though I'm at VA (though I also wanted the quad cannons).

These days buying C-store ships isn't the total rip it once was, because "free" ships besides what you get for your level-up tokens, cost Dilithium now, which costs a LOT of time to farm. Time that might be worth more than the actual cost of zen.

Sure, you could buy the Dilithium you need on the exchange, but at the lowest rates I've seen (180dil = 1Z) a "free" ship will still cost at least 600z.
Commander
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# 15
08-22-2012, 10:06 PM
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1. Why would you bother using standard equipment on any ship you ever buy past the first one?
I was never going to use the standard equipment, i just wanted to know why a T5 ship came with captain level equipment. pretty sure i said that

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2. You're making the foolish assumption that the only thing anyone ever pays for when they buy a C-store ship is the skin. When you buy a Venture you're getting a better Captain level ship that is also an account unlock, plus a special console.
When you go to the ship talor with the Dreadnought, you get the option to switch to the Venture skin, at a cost of 2500 zen(unless this was a glitch, wiki says it costs 1200 or 1500depending on where you look). For someone who never bought the Exploration Refit(whch apparently unlocks the Venture skin on 3 different ships), to get the Dreadnought with the Venture skin would cost 5000 zen.(or 3700 or 4000)
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# 16
08-22-2012, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by buddha1369 View Post
When you go to the ship talor with the Dreadnought, you get the option to switch to the Venture skin, at a cost of 2500 zen(unless this was a glitch, wiki says it costs 1200 or 1500depending on where you look). For someone who never bought the Exploration Refit(whch apparently unlocks the Venture skin on 3 different ships), to get the Dreadnought with the Venture skin would cost 5000 zen.(or 3700 or 4000)
That's because you're buying the ship as well as the skin. It would also cost me 2000z to use the Thunderchild skin on my Armitage (because I end up buying the Thunderchild Heavy Escort Refit), and 2250z to use the Belfast Interior on my Defiant (because it only comes in the Gamma Quadrant pack).
Commander
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# 17
08-22-2012, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by goedzooi View Post
I hope they stop making endless refits.
Welcome to Starfleet! Enjoy your stay.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 271
# 18
08-23-2012, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by elandarksky View Post
So what your saying is you want,

A cloak (fed console)
A saucer Separation (another console)
AND the phaser lance? (compare to garumba as it's console ((yes its built in but essnetially a console)) )

3 consoles in a ship for the price of one, in a strong enough as it is ship with (strong as in 'durable) and strong dps output?

And this inst even the current FLAGSHIP.

VERY reasonable...
Pretty much already a done deal. Already coded and programmed. The Phaser Spinal Lance even lists the shotgun mode in the power description. All they need to do is turn it on.

As to those wondering why the ship comes with low mk gear, the ship originally a RA vessel.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 32
# 19
08-23-2012, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by frostysly View Post
1. Thing: The Galaxy X doesn't need a universal Lt. BO Slot. It needs the same setting as the Regent Class. Whats the point in allowing a Cruiser to use Heavy Cannons with only one Rapid Fire abillity? Further it doesn't need a 3rd Sci Console. If either - then a Tac or Engi...

2. The Saucer Seperation is complete as we can see in the twitter pics. According to what I have read on the Forums, the reason it isnt live is because it was supposed to be in a Galaxy Ship-Pack, wich caused problems to people who already had either ship (Galaxy X and Galaxy Retrofit)...

3. The Ship needs a visual Overhaul! Ever noticed that the Bridge, and the Phaserlance is asynchron to the center of the saucer?

4. For all you Klingons out there... :-) The Galaxy X Dreadnought Cruiser doesn't need a Battlecloak. The only reason Klingons use/need a cloak is that they are ashamed of thier ships. Thats why the hide them... XD (Not to be meant rude)

Sorry for my bad english.
You know this post made a lot of sense. I am running the Dreadnought and I think it's actually a very well rounded ship. I really care less about a saucer seperation. But I think it should have a lt. commander tac BOFF or Commander tac BOFF and lower the engineering down. I really don't need Aceton Beam but could use either a cannon spread or a higher level cannon rapid fire. That would rule....
Captain
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# 20
08-23-2012, 07:39 AM
Well, the Venture has the oh so fun AntiMatter Spread console. But I'll admit I bought it just for the skin for my Dreadnought. The thicker Venture neck doesnt look great alone, but looks great with the third nacelle. I use Galaxy hull and pylons on my Venture-Dreadnought. The Venture pylons bring in the nacelles closer to the hull a bit, and I didnt like how it gimped the rear end and wanted the widest possible stance for the nacelles, since the saucer is already so much wider. But yes, its an expensive look to achieve, but still better looking than the Odyssey.
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