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# 61
08-24-2012, 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by pottsey5g View Post
I think it will take a lot more then that to counter a master transphasic build. Perhaps with 4 healing skills.

I have many who tested it out on some of my tank cruiser builds, they are surprised what little damage they do. I have also tested my own transphasic build and found it depended a good amount on how the target ship is set. Now, VS PVE targets its fairly straightforward, in PVP just depends on the skill of the target and how they have their ships set.

I discuss with my fellow fleet testers,the pro's and cons of fighting such a build. now, keep in mind this is only how I build a super tank (cruiser), which is not for everyone's taste. I have found that transphasic damage can easily be countered by *items removed so as not to give away information in respect to those that have worked hard on their transphasic builds. The leak through damage is easily balanced out without adding any extra healing to the mix for that build. Now the same build does not work on my sci character, simply because of factors oh their class, accolades missing, ship being used, etc.

yet again too, this is from my main, and engineer that has just about ever accolade and has been active since day 1 of live back in feb 2010. He is specifically built to take that kind of damage. As such, his DPS sucks. Just that simple, to be that tanky, you have to give up on something, so the DPS suffers.

And to give credit too, where it is due, I have seen a few transphasic builds that if you are not ready for it in pvp, the target gets the surprise of a lifetime. I have witness a few hit hulls with 6k-10k crits through shields. THAT is nothing to sneeze at folks, and as I said I have witness this first hand from some good builds.
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# 62
08-24-2012, 03:39 AM
It would not surprise me if a full healer setup could tank a Transphasic setup but that is not because a Transphasic setup is weak that?s because a full healer build can tank pretty much anything 1v1. Not sure why you keep removing information it?s not like anything you posted it super-secret. Assuming you mean those Kinetic resistance consoles it’s not like they make much of a difference against a full Transphasic build.

Could we meet for a 1v1 so I can see your build in action?

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# 63
08-25-2012, 01:15 PM
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It would not surprise me if a full healer setup could tank a Transphasic setup but that is not because a Transphasic setup is weak that?s because a full healer build can tank pretty much anything 1v1. Not sure why you keep removing information it?s not like anything you posted it super-secret. Assuming you mean those Kinetic resistance consoles it?s not like they make much of a difference against a full Transphasic build.

Could we meet for a 1v1 so I can see your build in action?
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# 64
08-25-2012, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by cmdrskyfaller View Post
Sadly you are incorrect.


Photon torpedo will do more hull damage through shield than transphasics. Why?

They have higher base damage, much faster refire rate -and- a much, MUCH higher damage multiplier in torpedo boff abilities.

Transphasics will never be viable until they have higher shield penetration. Sadly, if that happens, shields become irrelevant and everything fubars.


Transphasics need to have their special ability changed.

Wait, how can he be incorrect? Or do you think he read the numbers wrong? Hey, if you want to be a dps kid or one of the even moar kewl dPv kids, put up some numbers. Don't theorycraft it son!

So, sadly, your "just saying ****" don't make it so. Put up the numbers and the parses and then trolololol your way to hap e ness!

CYA!!!
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# 65
08-25-2012, 04:28 PM
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No Escort has ever killed me fast 1v1 not even the top end Elite DPS ones. You have to remember I do not need weapon energy so I can dump all that energy into shields and Engines. That means a nice turn rate for a cruiser and high defence from engine power as well as nice speed. Add in 125 shield power which gives 35% resistance before BO skills and I can tank very well. I am not some a slow turn rate slow speed cruiser which is how I catch out most Escorts. Most ships are not going out run me easily.
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# 66
09-17-2012, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by thlaylierah View Post
Punch through a shield with BAO III, then dump a HY III Quantum Salvo in there.
Nice Videos Kirk fan here.

and to the OP Voyager only used Photons no Transphasics.I would say that Q and photon torps are much better at dealing dmge.

http://www.stowiki.org/Transphasic_Torpedo_Launcher

http://www.stowiki.org/Photon_Torpedo_Launcher

http://www.stowiki.org/Quantum_Torpedo_Launcher
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Last edited by age03; 09-17-2012 at 02:12 PM.
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# 67
09-18-2012, 11:17 PM
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Nice Videos Kirk fan here.

and to the OP Voyager only used Photons no Transphasics.
You haven't watched Endgame yet.
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# 68
09-19-2012, 02:11 AM
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You haven't watched Endgame yet.
Future Janeway went back in time to supply the "old" Voyager in the 24th Century with ablative armor and transphasic torpedoes. The transphasics annihilated Borg cubes with single shots.
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# 69
09-19-2012, 03:49 PM
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You haven't watched Endgame yet.
Yes I did watch the end of Voyager and who knows if those weren't future transphasiscs.We are talking game not the show.
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# 70
09-19-2012, 05:57 PM
Has anyone tested Transphasic Torpedos with the http://www.stowiki.org/Breen_Absolute_Zero , you dont need the hole set.

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