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# 11
08-31-2012, 10:18 AM
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The question at hand is, do the Feds get the leech? I think that's a fair question.
I believe they should not recieve the Plasmonic leech.

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If they did get it, what imbalance would be introduced? Also a fair question, and good feedback.
I think will we see even more zombie vessels ingame thanks to the PL+ MACO+ EPM + DOffs combo's available to keep power levels at near maximum.
Throw in other design factors (like TB pets) and I believe that it will be unbalanced towards fed vessels with no equal console given to the KDF to allow for a proper defense.

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If they did get it, how unhappy would the KDF players get and why? Legitimate feedback, as long as it doesn't turn into a flame fest.
Very unhappy becuase of old angst and perceptions that show we hardly ever get an equal trade in such situations.
The feds seem to have the Multi-role design of thier ships very well established but the KDf vessels seem to be falling behind in areas as the Warfare and Engineering heavy design faction.
The uniqueness of some of our Consoles was a good seperator that kept us from falling behind our perception of the feds moving forward.

I hope this is a proper response and entertains those involved well enough.
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# 12
08-31-2012, 10:25 AM
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I hope this is a proper response and entertains those involved well enough. Or should I wear a patchwork outfit with bells and dance?
Has it really come to this? We have to song and dance for any attention?

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# 13
08-31-2012, 10:45 AM
It's a rumor, so it's against the rules to speculate about it.
If you want to comment to the devs about the possibility, it goes into the 'feedback' thread but as it hasn't been done yet I suspect discussion about it is also against the forum rules.

The 'closed' thread about this is here:
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...368291&page=23

And tho I appreciate the gifted tribble carcass BG, the fact thats it's dead shows that someone else has already taken out their frustrations on it.
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# 14
08-31-2012, 11:00 AM
Adding more of my 50 cents on this issue, as I'm against of such unfair treat of KDF.

First, I would like to say that this consoles cost Zen for kdf, which means that KDF players bought them with money or grinded, therefore it is rip-off to give this stuff to feds for free.

And, yes, this is vital part of KDF indeed. KDF don't have so many things like fed's, but at least this "little" is quality and unique, therefore makes interest to play KDF.
Each faction has to have unique consoles, species, abilities, etc. as it gives an interest to play them. Thanks.
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08-31-2012, 11:13 AM
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And tho I appreciate the gifted tribble carcass BG, the fact thats it's dead shows that someone else has already taken out their frustrations on it.
I assumed that thrusting a squealing tribble into the hands of a warrior would be bad for my health.
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# 16
08-31-2012, 11:28 AM
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I assumed that thrusting a squealing tribble into the hands of a warrior would be bad for my health.
I'd just assume you'd be asking the Klink to feed you your lunch.


Anyhow, I believe the devs are aware of our feelings about the rumor, might be best to move on until an 'official' rumor gets started.
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# 17
08-31-2012, 11:29 AM
Its more than a rumor and you all know this.

Also its not a double post i just had a fair question i would like answered soon so i can organize my future planning. EX (keep playing and paying the game or just keep playing without paying or just quit).

Since i am not f2per and i paid lots of money i would like at least if u cant treat fair to my faction at least answer me this question i asked so i dont waste my time in forums.

The facts are that if this console is shared will be having a huge impact over pvp and over KDF value as a faction.

I wont explain why and how exactly again even the optic fibers of the net learned those by heart by constantly saying by me and other elder KDF players.

The difference between me and the elder KDF players who i totally respect is that they dont loose their temper so easy as me and also they explain things a lot better cause their native language is english.

But what we say its obvious and all of us understands it but some of you pretend they dont for some reasons i wont analyze.

We all understand that MACO shields+leech+tractor pets+better escorts gone wipe out all fun in pvp and any competition against federation.

So plz answer me devs or PWE or cryptic idc who just gimme and answer will the leech console be shared via lockboxes with federation now and any future ''mini'' factions?

Cause if yes then you truly leave no reason for the current KDF players to keep on paying you and for future players to play and stick with KDF.

Ty in advance if you answer my question idc if its yes or no just tell me the truth.

From what i know this rumor leaked from a developer if am not mistaken thats how some players learned about this and thats how it got into my attention also.

So this rumor is not far from becoming reality sometime in the future unfortunately a bad one not only for KDF and its players but for the game itself.

I mean its not nuclear physics its simple logic

If u give all stuff into one side then the other side will suffer meaning that the game will suffer also

Balance and justice above EVERYTHING!

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# 18
08-31-2012, 11:31 AM
i have always been of the opinion what is good for the goose is good for the gander......the Federation and KDF are on just about equal ground technologically, devices, cloak, universal slots at this point in the timeline.

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# 19
08-31-2012, 11:43 AM
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i have always been of the opinion what is good for the goose is good for the gander......the Federation and KDF are on just about equal ground technologically, devices, cloak, universal slots at this point in the timeline.

Thank you
Ok then give us MACO shields and tractor pets and ur unique consoles and escort carriers and all those nice escorts we are missing and you can have all of our unique consoles then.

Thats what you say right?

All faction got all common and its only different design and skins?

Yeah this can work. I agree but its not the most optimal option for the game depth and uniqueness.

But what is happening here is taking rly important stuff for KDF and giving nothing in return or giving a console in return that is not so important as the one your taking from us.

It nowhere close to compare leech console with any federation console.

Only fair trade would be if we get similar to MACO shields with 10% dmg reduction to shields pretty high shield cap and CONSTANT ENERGY ALL OVER ACROSS THE BOARD that is stacking as much we are getting hit (the opposite effect from the leech console).
And escort carrier and tractor pets and fix our raptor turnrate and give us an raptor with 5th tactical console slot also and more universal boffs.

You can keep ur pve content and ur fancy clothes and costumes and unique pets.
I dont need ur pve content as long as i have pvp que, kerrat and stf's and fleet action mark que's

So if you give them leech effect along with MACO shield they will be having 2 much energy stacking and we will be only wasting one slot console just to cancel federation drain effects and we wont be getting any energy from our shields to compensate making the feds pretty much unkillable and KDF more vulnerable than it is now with all the ''free'' tractor pets around.

Also stacking maco shields + plasma leech it will be 2 much power all over across the board
like 125 125 100 100 or maybe more you know its possible even without spending 2 many skillpoints in ''talent'' tree on powers and this is just not good even if both factions have it!

In simple words if you give them leech console then you will have to remove energy stacking effect from MACO shields in order to maintain BASIC balance over pvp and pve otherwise its a gameover for KDF.

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# 20
08-31-2012, 11:49 AM
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Has it really come to this? We have to song and dance for any attention?

Kahless weeps.
It was noted in another thread on this subject that a participant there posting-in was only in said thread becuase of the entertainment value of watching a KDF fan have a come-apart.

I was not stating we had to song and dance to get attention but was sarcastically asking if my song & dance was up to said participants high standards since that was the only quality they deemed valuable when it comes to a KDF fan complaining over something.

I could go into a long speech on the ego-centric viewpoints of some fans and how insulting it is to suffer them, but you play KDF so you already know and I do not wish to be banned (again)
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